linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: dt-bindings: fsl_rpmsg: List DAPM endpoints ignoring suspend

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Date:   Mon, 25 Sep 2023 10:36:43 +0200
From:   Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@...aro.org>
To:     Chancel Liu <chancel.liu@....com>,
        "lgirdwood@...il.com" <lgirdwood@...il.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: dt-bindings: fsl_rpmsg: List DAPM endpoints
 ignoring suspend

On 25/09/2023 10:20, Chancel Liu wrote:
>>> Add a property to list DAPM endpoints which mark paths between these
>>> endpoints ignoring suspend. These DAPM paths can still be power on
>>> when system enters into suspend.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Chancel Liu <chancel.liu@....com>
>>> ---
>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/fsl,rpmsg.yaml | 6 ++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/fsl,rpmsg.yaml
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/fsl,rpmsg.yaml
>>> index 188f38baddec..ec6e09eab427 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/fsl,rpmsg.yaml
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/fsl,rpmsg.yaml
>>> @@ -91,6 +91,12 @@ properties:
>>>        - rpmsg-audio-channel
>>>        - rpmsg-micfil-channel
>>>
>>> +  fsl,lpa-widgets:
>>
>> What is LPA? It's not explained in property description.
>>
> 
> On asymmetric multiprocessor, there are Cortex-A core and Cortex-M core, Linux
> is running on Cortex-A core, RTOS or other OS is running on Cortex-M core. The
> audio hardware devices can be controlled by Cortex-M. LPA means low power audio
> case. The mechanism can be explained that Cortex-A allocates a large buffer and
> fill audio data, then Cortex-A can enter into suspend for the purpose of power
> saving. Cortex-M continues to play the sound during suspend phase of Cortex-A.
> When the data in buffer is consumed, Cortex-M will trigger the Cortex-A to
> wakeup to fill data.
> 
> I can add above explanation to LPA in patch v2.
> 
>>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/non-unique-string-array
>>> +    description: |
>>> +      A list of DAPM endpoints which mark paths between these endpoints
>>> +      ignoring suspend.
>>
>> And how does it differ from audio-routing? Also, you need to explain what is
>> "suspend" in this context. Bindings are independent of Linux.
>>
> 
> Normally audio paths will be disabled by ASoC dynamic audio power management if
> Linux enters into suspend. LPA requires some audio paths enabled when Cortex-A
> enters into suspend. We can read DAPM endpoints from the "fsl,lpa-widgets"
> property and keep the paths between these endpoints enabled during suspend
> phase of Cortex-A. Property "audio-routing" just declares the connection
> between widgets and doesn't have such feature.
> 
> I will modify the description as following:
> "A list of DAPM endpoints which mark paths between these endpoints still enabled
> when system enters into suspend."

Yes, that's better, but even better would be to say not how the OS
should behave, but how the actual entire system works. Basically these
widgets remain in use by your co-processor, thus OS should not disable
them when entering in system suspend state.

Best regards,
Krzysztof