linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] x86/percpu: Use segment qualifiers

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Date:   Sun, 1 Oct 2023 23:47:58 +0200
From:   Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@...il.com>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     x86@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com>,
        Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
        Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
        "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] x86/percpu: Use segment qualifiers

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 10:21 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 12:53, Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > Regarding x86 target specific code, the same functionality used for
> > explicit address space is used internally to handle __thread
> > qualifier.
>
> Ok, that's interesting, in that __thread is certainly widely used so
> it will have seen testing.
>
> > Even *if* there are some issues with aliasing, the kernel
> > is immune to them due to
> >
> > KBUILD_CFLAGS += -fno-strict-aliasing
>
> It's not aliasing I'd worry about. It's correctness.
>
> And indeed, the *very* first thing I tried shows that this is all very
> very buggy in gcc.
>
> What did I try? A simple memory copy with a structure assignment.
>
> Try to compile this:
>
>     #include <string.h>
>     struct a { long arr[30]; };
>
>     __seg_fs struct a m;
>     void foo(struct a *dst) { *dst = m; }
>
> using the kernel compiler options (it's the "don't use sse/avx" ones
> that matter):
>
>     gcc -mno-avx -mno-sse -O2 -S t.c
>
> and look at the end result. It's complete and utter sh*t:
>
>         foo:
>                 xorl    %eax, %eax
>                 cmpq    $240, %rax
>                 jnb     .L5
>         .L2:
>                 movzbl  %fs:m(%rax), %edx
>                 movb    %dl, (%rdi,%rax)
>                 addq    $1, %rax
>                 cmpq    $240, %rax
>                 jb      .L2
>         .L5:
>                 ret
>
> to the point that I can only go "WTF"?
>
> I mean, it's not just that it does the copy one byte at a time. It
> literally compares %rax to $240 just after it has cleared it. I look
> at that code, and I go "a five-year old with a crayon could have done
> better".
>
> In other words, no, we're not using this thing that generates that
> kind of garbage.
>
> Somebody needs to open a bugzilla entry for this kind of code generation.

Huh, this testcase triggers known issue with IVopts. I opened
PR111657, but the issue with IVopts is already reported in PR79649
[2].

> Clang isn't much better, but at least it doesn't generate bad code. It
> just crashes with an internal compiler error on the above trivial
> test-case:
>
>     fatal error: error in backend: cannot lower memory intrinsic in
> address space 257
>
> which at least tells the user that they can't copy memory from that
> address space. But once again shows that no, this feature is not ready
> for prime-time.
>
> If literally the *first* thing I thought to test was this broken, what
> else is broken in this model?
>
> And no, the kernel doesn't currently do the above kinds of things.
> That's not the point. The point was "how well is this compiler support
> tested". The answer is "not at all".

[1] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=111657
[2] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=79649

Uros.