linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: fix handling of unpopulated devices

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Date:   Mon, 2 Oct 2023 09:00:26 -0700
From:   Doug Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>
To:     Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org>
Cc:     Johan Hovold <johan+linaro@...nel.org>,
        Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
        Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com>,
        linux-input@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Maxime Ripard <mripard@...nel.org>,
        Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
        LinusW <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org>,
        Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
        "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
        <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] HID: i2c-hid: fix handling of unpopulated devices

Hi,

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:48 AM Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> > In any case, the fact that there is a shared power rail / shared power
> > sequence is because the hardware designer intended them to either be
> > both off or both on. Whenever I asked the EEs that designed these
> > boards about leaving the touchscreen on while turning the panel power
> > off they always looked at me incredulously and asked why I would ever
> > do that. Although we can work around the hardware by powering the
> > panel in order to allow the touchscreen to be on, it's just not the
> > intention.
>
> I hear you, but users sometimes want do things with their hardware which
> may not have originally been intended (e.g. your kiosk example).

...and they can. I don't think it's totally unreasonable for userspace
in this case to take into account that they need to keep the panel
powered on (maybe with the screen black and the backlight off) if they
want the touchscreen kept on. If I was coding up userspace it wouldn't
surprise me at all if the touchscreen stopped working when the panel
was off.

I will further note that there is actually hardware where it's even
more difficult. On the same sc7180-trogdor laptops (and others as
well) the USB webcam is _also_ powered by the same power rail. When
you power the screen off then the USB webcam deenumerates. When you
power the screen on then it shows back up. It would be really weird if
somehow the USB webcam driver needed a link to the panel to try to
keep it powered.

-Doug