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Message-ID: <ZSUX9NLa+DDjFLnZ@gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 10 Oct 2023 11:23:00 +0200
From:   Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:     Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@....com>,
        K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@....com>,
        Bharata B Rao <bharata@....com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched/numa: Complete scanning of inactive VMAs when
 there is no alternative


* Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net> wrote:

> On a 2-socket Cascade Lake test machine, the time to complete the
> workload is as follows;
> 
>                                                6.6.0-rc2              6.6.0-rc2
>                                      sched-numabtrace-v1 sched-numabselective-v1
> Min       elsp-NUMA01_THREADLOCAL      174.22 (   0.00%)      117.64 (  32.48%)
> Amean     elsp-NUMA01_THREADLOCAL      175.68 (   0.00%)      123.34 *  29.79%*
> Stddev    elsp-NUMA01_THREADLOCAL        1.20 (   0.00%)        4.06 (-238.20%)
> CoeffVar  elsp-NUMA01_THREADLOCAL        0.68 (   0.00%)        3.29 (-381.70%)
> Max       elsp-NUMA01_THREADLOCAL      177.18 (   0.00%)      128.03 (  27.74%)
> 
> The time to complete the workload is reduced by almost 30%
> 
>                    6.6.0-rc2   6.6.0-rc2
>                 sched-numabtrace-v1 sched-numabselective-v1 /
> Duration User       91201.80    63506.64
> Duration System      2015.53     1819.78
> Duration Elapsed     1234.77      868.37
> 
> In this specific case, system CPU time was not increased but it's not
> universally true.
> 
> From vmstat, the NUMA scanning and fault activity is as follows;
> 
>                                       6.6.0-rc2      6.6.0-rc2
>                             sched-numabtrace-v1 sched-numabselective-v1
> Ops NUMA base-page range updates       64272.00    26374386.00
> Ops NUMA PTE updates                   36624.00       55538.00
> Ops NUMA PMD updates                      54.00       51404.00
> Ops NUMA hint faults                   15504.00       75786.00
> Ops NUMA hint local faults %           14860.00       56763.00
> Ops NUMA hint local percent               95.85          74.90
> Ops NUMA pages migrated                 1629.00     6469222.00
> 
> Both the number of PTE updates and hint faults is dramatically
> increased. While this is superficially unfortunate, it represents
> ranges that were simply skipped without the patch. As a result
> of the scanning and hinting faults, many more pages were also
> migrated but as the time to completion is reduced, the overhead
> is offset by the gain.

Nice! I've applied your series to tip:sched/core with a few non-functional 
edits to comment/changelog formatting/clarity.

Btw., was any previous analysis done on the size of the pids_active[] hash
and the hash collision rate?

64 (BITS_PER_LONG) feels a bit small, especially on larger machines running 
threaded workloads, and the kmalloc of numab_state likely allocates a full 
cacheline anyway, so we could double the hash size from 8 bytes (2x1 longs) 
to 32 bytes (2x2 longs) with very little real cost, and still have a long 
field left to spare?

Thanks,

	Ingo

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