linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH -next 1/7] mm_types: add _last

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Message-ID: <f4aedda6-8da1-4479-a9d7-7a0cd3329720@huawei.com>
Date:   Wed, 11 Oct 2023 16:05:42 +0800
From:   Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com>
To:     "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
CC:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <david@...hat.com>,
        Zi Yan <ziy@...dia.com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next 1/7] mm_types: add _last_cpupid into folio



On 2023/10/11 13:55, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com> writes:
> 
>> On 2023/10/10 20:33, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 02:45:38PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>> At present, only arc/sparc/m68k define WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL, both of
>>>> them don't support numa balancing, and the page struct is aligned
>>>> to _struct_page_alignment, it is safe to move _last_cpupid before
>>>> 'virtual' in page, meanwhile, add it into folio, which make us to
>>>> use folio->_last_cpupid directly.
>>> What do you mean by "safe"?  I think you mean "Does not increase the
>>> size of struct page", but if that is what you mean, why not just say so?
>>> If there's something else you mean, please explain.
>>
>> Don't increase size of struct page and don't impact the real order of
>> struct page as the above three archs without numa balancing support.
>>
>>> In any event, I'd like to see some reasoning that _last_cpupid is
>>> actually
>>> information which is logically maintained on a per-allocation basis,
>>> not a per-page basis (I think this is true, but I honestly don't know)
>>
>> The _last_cpupid is updated in should_numa_migrate_memory() from numa
>> fault(do_numa_page, and do_huge_pmd_numa_page), it is per-page(normal
>> page and PMD-mapped page). Maybe I misunderstand your mean, please
>> correct me.
> 
> Because PTE mapped THP will not be migrated according to comments and
> folio_test_large() test in do_numa_page().  Only _last_cpuid of the head
> page will be used (that is, on per-allocation basis).  Although in
> change_pte_range() in mprotect.c, _last_cpuid of tail pages may be
> changed, they are not used actually.  All in all, _last_cpuid is on
> per-allocation basis for now.

Thanks for clarification, yes, it's what I mean, too
> 
> In the future, it's hard to say.  PTE-mapped THPs or large folios give
> us an opportunity to check whether the different parts of a folio are
> accessed by multiple sockets, so that we should split the folio.  But
> this is just some possibility in the future.

It depends on memory access behavior of application,if multiple sockets
access a large folio/PTE-mappped THP frequently, split maybe better,
or it is enough to just migrate the entire folio.


> 
> --
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
>