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Message-ID: <fcb9b7f0-fb21-cce8-d452-766a5cc73d4a@gentwo.org>
Date:   Mon, 23 Oct 2023 10:00:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:   "Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@...two.org>
To:     Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
cc:     chengming.zhou@...ux.dev, penberg@...nel.org, rientjes@...gle.com,
        iamjoonsoo.kim@....com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
        roman.gushchin@...ux.dev, 42.hyeyoo@...il.com, willy@...radead.org,
        pcc@...gle.com, tytso@....edu, maz@...nel.org,
        ruansy.fnst@...itsu.com, vishal.moola@...il.com,
        lrh2000@....edu.cn, hughd@...gle.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@...edance.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] slub: Delay freezing of CPU partial slabs

On Mon, 23 Oct 2023, Vlastimil Babka wrote:

>>
>> The slab will be delay frozen when it's picked to actively use by the
>> CPU, it becomes full at the same time, in which case we still need to
>> rely on "frozen" bit to avoid manipulating its list. So the slab will
>> be frozen only when activate use and be unfrozen only when deactivate.
>
> Interesting solution! I wonder if we could go a bit further and remove
> acquire_slab() completely. Because AFAICS even after your changes,
> acquire_slab() is still attempted including freezing the slab, which means
> still doing an cmpxchg_double under the list_lock, and now also handling the
> special case when it failed, but we at least filled percpu partial lists.
> What if we only filled the partial list without freezing, and then froze the
> first slab outside of the list_lock?
>
> Or more precisely, instead of returning the acquired "object" we would
> return the first slab removed from partial list. I think it would simplify
> the code a bit, and further reduce list_lock holding times.
>
> I'll also point out a few more details, but it's not a full detailed review
> as the suggestion above, and another for 4/5, could mean a rather
> significant change for v3.

This is not that easy. The frozen bit indicates that list management does 
not have to be done for a slab if its processed in free. If you take a 
slab off the list without setting that bit then something else needs to 
provide the information that "frozen" provided.

If the frozen bit changes can be handled in a different way than 
with cmpxchg then that is a good optimization.

For much of the frozen handling we must be holding the node list lock 
anyways in order to add/remove from the list. So we already have a lock 
that could be used to protect flag operations.

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