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Date:   Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:13:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 16/35] KVM: Add KVM_CREATE_GUEST_MEMFD ioctl() for
 guest-specific backing memory

On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 7:23 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > index e2252c748fd6..e82c69d5e755 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > @@ -6079,6 +6079,15 @@ applied.
> >  :Parameters: struct kvm_userspace_memory_region2 (in)
> >  :Returns: 0 on success, -1 on error
> >
> > +KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 is an extension to KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION that
> > +allows mapping guest_memfd memory into a guest.  All fields shared with
> > +KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION identically.  Userspace can set KVM_MEM_PRIVATE in
> > +flags to have KVM bind the memory region to a given guest_memfd range of
> > +[guest_memfd_offset, guest_memfd_offset + memory_size].  The target guest_memfd
> > +must point at a file created via KVM_CREATE_GUEST_MEMFD on the current VM, and
> > +the target range must not be bound to any other memory region.  All standard
> > +bounds checks apply (use common sense).
> > +
> 
> Bikeshedding here: Not sure if KVM_MEM_PRIVATE is the best name for
> this. It gets confusing with KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE, i.e., that
> a region marked as KVM_MEM_PRIVATE is only potentially private. It did
> confuse the rest of the team when I walked them through a previous
> version of this code once. Would something like KVM_MEM_GUESTMEM make
> more sense?

Heh, deja vu.  We discussed this back in v7[*], and I came to the conclusion that
choosing a name that wasn't explicitly tied to private memory wasn't justified.
But that was before a KVM-owned guest_memfd was even an idea, and thus before we
had anything close to a real use case.

Since we now know that at least pKVM will use guest_memfd for shared memory, and
odds are quite good that "regular" VMs will also do the same, i.e. will want
guest_memfd with the concept of private memory, I agree that we should avoid
PRIVATE.

Though I vote for KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD (or KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD_VALID or
KVM_MEM_USE_GUEST_MEMFD).  I.e. do our best to avoid ambiguity between referring
to "guest memory" at-large and guest_memfd.

Copying a few relevant points from v7 to save a click or three.

 : I don't have a concrete use case (this is a recent idea on my end), but since we're
 : already adding fd-based memory, I can't think of a good reason not make it more generic
 : for not much extra cost.  And there are definitely classes of VMs for which fd-based
 : memory would Just Work, e.g. large VMs that are never oversubscribed on memory don't
 : need to support reclaim, so the fact that fd-based memslots won't support page aging
 : (among other things) right away is a non-issue.

...

 : Hrm, but basing private memory on top of a generic FD_VALID would effectively require
 : shared memory to use hva-based memslots for confidential VMs.  That'd yield a very
 : weird API, e.g. non-confidential VMs could be backed entirely by fd-based memslots,
 : but confidential VMs would be forced to use hva-based memslots.
 : 
 : Ignore this idea for now.  If there's an actual use case for generic fd-based memory
 : then we'll want a separate flag, fd, and offset, i.e. that support could be added
 : independent of KVM_MEM_PRIVATE.

...

 : One alternative would be to call it KVM_MEM_PROTECTED.  That shouldn't cause
 : problems for the known use of "private" (TDX and SNP), and it gives us a little
 : wiggle room, e.g. if we ever get a use case where VMs can share memory that is
 : otherwise protected.
 : 
 : That's a pretty big "if" though, and odds are good we'd need more memslot flags and
 : fd+offset pairs to allow differentiating "private" vs. "protected-shared" without
 : forcing userspace to punch holes in memslots, so I don't know that hedging now will
 : buy us anything.
 : 
 : So I'd say that if people think KVM_MEM_PRIVATE brings additional and meaningful
 : clarity over KVM_MEM_PROTECTECD, then lets go with PRIVATE.  But if PROTECTED is
 : just as good, go with PROTECTED as it gives us a wee bit of wiggle room for the
 : future.

[*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Yuh0ikhoh+tCK6VW@google.com
 
> > -See KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION.
> > +A KVM_MEM_PRIVATE region _must_ have a valid guest_memfd (private memory) and
> > +userspace_addr (shared memory).  However, "valid" for userspace_addr simply
> > +means that the address itself must be a legal userspace address.  The backing
> > +mapping for userspace_addr is not required to be valid/populated at the time of
> > +KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2, e.g. shared memory can be lazily mapped/allocated
> > +on-demand.
> 
> Regarding requiring that a private region have both a valid
> guest_memfd and a userspace_addr, should this be
> implementation-specific? In pKVM at least, all regions for protected
> VMs are private, and KVM doesn't care about the host userspace address
> for those regions even when part of the memory is shared.

Hmm, as of this patch, no, because the pKVM usage doesn't exist.  E.g. 

.  Because this literally documents the current ABI.  When

> > +When mapping a gfn into the guest, KVM selects shared vs. private, i.e consumes
> > +userspace_addr vs. guest_memfd, based on the gfn's KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE
> > +state.  At VM creation time, all memory is shared, i.e. the PRIVATE attribute
> > +is '0' for all gfns.  Userspace can control whether memory is shared/private by
> > +toggling KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE via KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES as needed.
> 
> In pKVM, guest memory is private by default, and most of it will
> remain so for the lifetime of the VM. Userspace could explicitly mark
> all the guest's memory as private at initialization, but it would save
> a slight amount of work. That said, I understand that it might be
> better to be consistent across implementations.

Yeah, we discussed this in v12[*].  The default really doesn't matter for memory
overheads or performances once supports range-based xarray entries, and if that
isn't sufficient, KVM can internally invert the polarity of PRIVATE.

But for the ABI, I think we put a stake in the ground and say that all memory is
shared by default.  That way CoCo VMs and regular VMs (i.e VMs without the concept
of private memory) all have the same ABI.  Practically speaking, the cost to pKVM
(and likely every other CoCo VM type) is a single ioctl() during VM creation to
"convert" all memory to private.

[*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZRw6X2BptZnRPNK7@google.com

> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> > @@ -0,0 +1,548 @@
> > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +#include <linux/backing-dev.h>
> > +#include <linux/falloc.h>
> > +#include <linux/kvm_host.h>
> > +#include <linux/pagemap.h>
> > +#include <linux/anon_inodes.h>
> 
> nit: should this include be first (to maintain alphabetical ordering
> of the includes)?

Heh, yeah.  I would argue this isn't a nit though ;-)

> > +static long kvm_gmem_punch_hole(struct inode *inode, loff_t offset, loff_t len)
> > +{
> > +       struct list_head *gmem_list = &inode->i_mapping->private_list;
> > +       pgoff_t start = offset >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> > +       pgoff_t end = (offset + len) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> > +       struct kvm_gmem *gmem;
> > +
> > +       /*
> > +        * Bindings must stable across invalidation to ensure the start+end
> 
> nit: Bindings must _be/stay?_ stable

"be" is what's intended.

> ...
> 
> > diff --git a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> > index 78a0b09ef2a5..5d1a2f1b4e94 100644
> > --- a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> > +++ b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> > @@ -798,7 +798,7 @@ void kvm_mmu_invalidate_range_add(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t start, gfn_t end)
> >         }
> >  }
> >
> > -static bool kvm_mmu_unmap_gfn_range(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_gfn_range *range)
> > +bool kvm_mmu_unmap_gfn_range(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_gfn_range *range)
> >  {
> >         kvm_mmu_invalidate_range_add(kvm, range->start, range->end);
> >         return kvm_unmap_gfn_range(kvm, range);
> > @@ -1034,6 +1034,9 @@ static void kvm_destroy_dirty_bitmap(struct kvm_memory_slot *memslot)
> >  /* This does not remove the slot from struct kvm_memslots data structures */
> >  static void kvm_free_memslot(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_memory_slot *slot)
> >  {
> > +       if (slot->flags & KVM_MEM_PRIVATE)
> > +               kvm_gmem_unbind(slot);
> > +
> 
> Should this be called after kvm_arch_free_memslot()? Arch-specific ode
> might need some of the data before the unbinding, something I thought
> might be necessary at one point for the pKVM port when deleting a
> memslot, but realized later that kvm_invalidate_memslot() ->
> kvm_arch_guest_memory_reclaimed() was the more logical place for it.
> Also, since that seems to be the pattern for arch-specific handlers in
> KVM.

Maybe?  But only if we can about symmetry between the allocation and free paths
I really don't think kvm_arch_free_memslot() should be doing anything beyond a
"pure" free.  E.g. kvm_arch_free_memslot() is also called after moving a memslot,
which hopefully we never actually have to allow for guest_memfd, but any code in
kvm_arch_free_memslot() would bring about "what if" questions regarding memslot
movement.  I.e. the API is intended to be a "free arch metadata associated with
the memslot".

Out of curiosity, what does pKVM need to do at kvm_arch_guest_memory_reclaimed()?

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