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Message-ID: <20231110031347.GA62514@system.software.com>
Date:   Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:13:47 +0900
From:   Byungchul Park <byungchul@...com>
To:     Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com>
Cc:     Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        "kernel_team@...ynix.com" <kernel_team@...ynix.com>,
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        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [v3 2/3] mm: Defer TLB flush by keeping both src and dst folios
 at migration

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 10:02:01AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 10:16:57AM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On Nov 8, 2023, at 6:12 AM, Byungchul Park <byungchul@...com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > !! External Email
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 09:51:30PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > >>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> > >>>> index 6c264d2f969c..75dc48b6e15f 100644
> > >>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
> > >>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > >>>> @@ -3359,6 +3359,19 @@ static vm_fault_t do_wp_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> > >>>>  if (vmf->page)
> > >>>>          folio = page_folio(vmf->page);
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> + /*
> > >>>> +  * This folio has its read copy to prevent inconsistency while
> > >>>> +  * deferring TLB flushes. However, the problem might arise if
> > >>>> +  * it's going to become writable.
> > >>>> +  *
> > >>>> +  * To prevent it, give up the deferring TLB flushes and perform
> > >>>> +  * TLB flush right away.
> > >>>> +  */
> > >>>> + if (folio && migrc_pending_folio(folio)) {
> > >>>> +         migrc_unpend_folio(folio);
> > >>>> +         migrc_try_flush_free_folios(NULL);
> > >>> 
> > >>> So many potential function calls… Probably they should have been combined
> > >>> into one and at least migrc_pending_folio() should have been an inline
> > >>> function in the header.
> > >> 
> > >> I will try to change it as you mention.
> > >> 
> > >>>> + }
> > >>>> +
> > >>> 
> > >>> What about mprotect? I thought David has changed it so it can set writable
> > >>> PTEs.
> > >> 
> > >> I will check it out.
> > > 
> > > I found mprotect stuff is already performing TLB flushes needed for it.
> > > So some redundant TLB flushes might happen by migrc but it's not that
> > > harmful I think. Thanks.
> > 
> > Let me explain the scenario I am concerned with. Assume page P is RO, and
> > moves from Psrc to Pdst. Pointer “p” points to P. Initially (*p == 0).
> > 
> > Let’s also assume we also have an atomic variable “a”. Initially (a == 0).
> > 
> > I hope I got the migration function names right, but I hope the problem
> > itself can be clear regardless. 
> > 
> > CPU0			CPU1			CPU2		CPU3
> > ----			----			----		----
> > 			(user-mode)		(user-mode)		
> > 
> > 			Access *p
> > 			[Psrc cached in TLB]
> >  
> > migrate_pages_batch()
> > -> migrate_folio_unmap()
> > 
> > [ PTE updated, 
> >   still no flush ]
> > 
> > 								mprotect(p,
> > 									RW)
> 
> Here,
> 
> mprotect()
>    do_mprotect_pkey()
>       tlb_finish_mmu()
>          tlb_flush_mmu()
> 
> I thought TLB flush for mprotect() is performed by tlb_flush_mmu() so
> any cached TLB entries on other CPUs can have chance to update. Could
> you correct me if I get it wrong? Thanks.

I guess you tried to inform me that x86 mmu automatically keeps the
consistancy based on cached TLB entries. Right? If yes, I should do
something on that path. If not, it's not problematic. Thoughts?

	Byungchul

> 	Byungchul
> 
> > 
> > 								[ Psrc is
> > 								  RW ]
> > 
> > 								[ flush
> > 								  deferred]
> > 
> > 
> > 						*p = 1  # Pdst
> > 						
> > 						xchg(&a, 1)
> > 			mfence
> > 			if (a == 1)
> > 			  assert(*p == 1);
> > 
> > 
> > 				
> > Now at this point the assertion might fail. CPU2 wrote into Pdst, whereas
> > CPU1 reads from Psrc. But based on x86 memory model, userspace might not
> > expect this scenario to be possible, hence leading to bugs.

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