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Date:   Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:17:15 +0100
From:   Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To:     Jeremi Piotrowski <jpiotrowski@...ux.microsoft.com>
Cc:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Michael Kelley <mhklinux@...look.com>,
        Dexuan Cui <decui@...rosoft.com>, linux-hyperv@...r.kernel.org,
        stefan.bader@...onical.com, tim.gardner@...onical.com,
        roxana.nicolescu@...onical.com, cascardo@...onical.com,
        kys@...rosoft.com, haiyangz@...rosoft.com, wei.liu@...nel.org,
        kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com, sashal@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/mm: Check cc_vendor when printing memory encryption
 info

On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 07:41:33PM +0100, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote:
> tdx_early_init() changes kernel behavior with the assumption that it
> can talk directly to the TD module or change page visibility in
> a certain way, instead of talking to a paravisor. So that CPUID is
> hidden to prevent this.  Otherwise tdx_early_init() would need to be
> modified to check "am I running with TD partitioning and if so
> - switch to other implementations".

Here we go with the virt zoo again. If you hide TDX_CPUID_LEAF_ID from
it, then it of course doesn't know that it is a TDX guest. This is the
same thing as the SNP vTom thing: the only viable way going forward is
for the guest kernel to detect correctly what it runs on and act
accordingly.

You can't just do some semi-correct tests for vendor - correct only
if you squint hard enough - and hope that it works because it'll break
apart eventually, when that second-level TDX fun needs to add more
hackery to the guest kernel.

So, instead, think about how the paravisor tells the guest it is running
on one - a special CPUID leaf or an MSR in the AMD case - and use that
to detect it properly.

Everything else is a mess waiting to happen.

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

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