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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:43:17 -0500
From: Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@...il.com>, x86@...nel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] x86/mm: Use %RIP-relative address in untagged_addr()
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 1:16 PM H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/16/23 11:10, Uros Bizjak wrote:
> > %RIP-relative addresses are nowadays correctly handled in alternative
> > instructions, so remove misleading comment and improve assembly to
> > use %RIP-relative address.
> >
> > Also, explicitly using %gs: prefix will segfault for non-SMP builds.
> > Use macros from percpu.h which will DTRT with segment prefix register
> > as far as SMP/non-SMP builds are concerned.
>
> OK, this is starting to feel silly. One could seriously question the use
> case for supporting !SMP builds x86-64. It isn't like our performance
> for SMP builds on UP systems is significantly worse, it is mostly just a
> matter of code size, and the difference isn't huge, either, especially
> considering that on systems of the x86-64 era the kernel is a rather
> small part of system memory (unlike the very early i386 era, for those
> of us who remember those ancient times.)
>
> The number of UP x86-64 systems is really very small (since
> multicore/SMT became ubiquitous at roughly the same time x86-64 was
> introduced), and as far as I know none of them lack APIC which is really
> the most fundamental difference between SMP and !SMP on x86.
>
> Why don't we simply have %gs_base == 0 as an invariant for !SMP?
The reason is stack protector, which is still stuck at %gs:40. So
GSBASE has to point at fixed_percpu_data, even on a UP build. That is
corrected by the patch series I recently posted, though.
> If we
> *REALLY* care to skip SWAPGS on !SMP systems, we could use alternatives
> to patch out %gs: and lock (wouldn't even have to be explicit: this is
> the kind of thing that objtool does really well.) We can use
> alternatives without anything special, since it only matters after we
> have entered user spae for the first time and would be concurrent with
> patching out SWAPGS itself.
There is already support to patch out LOCK prefixes when running an
SMP build on a single CPU (.smp_locks section). Patching out the GS
prefix would only work if the initial percpu area is not freed.
Beyond that I don't think other optimizations are worth the effort,
and would get very little testing.
Brian Gerst
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