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Date:   Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:15:15 -0800
From:   Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
To:     "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>
Cc:     Chris Li <chriscli@...gle.com>,
        Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@...edance.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Nhat Pham <nphamcs@...il.com>,
        Seth Jennings <sjenning@...hat.com>,
        Dan Streetman <ddstreet@...e.org>,
        Vitaly Wool <vitaly.wool@...sulko.com>,
        linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm:zswap: fix zswap entry reclamation failure in two scenarios

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:57 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@...el.com> wrote:
>
> Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com> writes:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 7:20 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@...el.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Chris Li <chriscli@...gle.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:19 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Not bypassing the swap slot cache, just make the callbacks to
> >> >> invalidate the zswap entry, do memg uncharging, etc when the slot is
> >> >> no longer used and is entering the swap slot cache (i.e. when
> >> >> free_swap_slot() is called), instead of when draining the swap slot
> >> >> cache (i.e. when swap_range_free() is called). For all parts of MM
> >> >> outside of swap, the swap entry is freed when free_swap_slot() is
> >> >> called. We don't free it immediately because of caching, but this
> >> >> should be transparent to other parts of MM (e.g. zswap, memcg, etc).
> >> >
> >> > That will cancel the batching effect on the swap slot free, making the
> >> > common case for  swapping  faults take longer to complete, righ?
> >> > If I recall correctly, the uncharge is the expensive part of the swap
> >> > slot free operation.
> >> > I just want to figure out what we are trading off against. This is not
> >> > one side wins all situations.
> >>
> >> Per my understanding, we don't batch memcg uncharging in
> >> swap_entry_free() now.  Although it's possible and may improve
> >> performance.
> >
> > Yes. It actually causes a long tail in swapin fault latency as Chris
> > discovered in our prod. I am wondering if doing the memcg uncharging
> > outside the slots cache will actually amortize the cost instead.
> >
> > Regardless of memcg charging, which is more complicated, I think we
> > should at least move the call to zswap_invalidate() before the slots
> > cache. I would prefer that we move everything non-swapfile specific
> > outside the slots cache layer (zswap_invalidate(),
> > arch_swap_invalidate_page(),  clear_shadow_from_swap_cache(),
> > mem_cgroup_uncharge_swap(), ..).  However, if some of those are
> > controversial, we can move some of them for now.
>
> That makes sense for me.
>
> > When draining free swap slots from the cache, swap_range_free() is
> > called with nr_entries == 1 anyway, so I can't see how any batching is
> > going on. If anything it should help amortize the cost.
>
> In swapcache_free_entries(), the sis->lock will be held to free multiple
> swap slots via swap_info_get_cont() if possible.  This can reduce
> sis->lock contention.

Ah yes that's a good point. Since most of these callbacks don't
actually access sis, but use the swap entry value itself, I am
guessing the reason we need to hold the lock for all these callbacks
is to prevent swapoff and swapon reusing the same swap entry on a
different swap device, right?

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