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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:45:30 +0000
From: Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc: Hector Martin <marcan@...can.st>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
James Clark <james.clark@....com>,
linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Asahi Linux <asahi@...ts.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Perf (userspace) broken on big.LITTLE systems since v6.5
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:23:10 +0000,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 03:24:25PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:40:31 +0000,
> > Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > [Adding key people on Cc]
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:08:48 +0000,
> > > Hector Martin <marcan@...can.st> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Perf broke on all Apple ARM64 systems (tested almost everything), and
> > > > according to maz also on Juno (so, probably all big.LITTLE) since v6.5.
> > >
> > > I can confirm that at least on 6.7-rc2, perf is pretty busted on any
> > > asymmetric ARM platform. It isn't clear what criteria is used to pick
> > > the PMU, but nothing works anymore.
> > >
> > > The saving grace in my case is that Debian still ships a 6.1 perftool
> > > package, but that's obviously not going to last.
> > >
> > > I'm happy to test potential fixes.
> >
> > At Mark's request, I've dumped a couple of perf (as of -rc2) runs with
> > -vvv. And it is quite entertaining (this is taskset to an 'icestorm'
> > CPU):
>
> Looking at this with fresh(er) eyes, I think there's a userspace bug here,
> regardless of whether one believes it's correct to convert a named-pmu event to
> a PERF_TYPE_HARDWARE event directed at that PMU.
>
> It looks like the userspace tool is dropping the extended type ID after an
> initial probe, and requests events with plain PERF_TYPE_HARDWARE (without an
> extended type ID), which explains why we seem to get events from one PMU only.
>
> More detail below...
>
> Marc, if you have time, could you run the same commands (on the same kernel)
> with a perf tool build from v6.4?
Here you go:
<quote>
$ sudo taskset -c 0 ./perf stat -vvv -e apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/ -e apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/ -e cycles ls >/dev/null
Using CPUID 0x00000000610f0280
Attempting to add event pmu 'apple_icestorm_pmu' with 'cycles,' that may result in non-fatal errors
After aliases, add event pmu 'apple_icestorm_pmu' with 'event,' that may result in non-fatal errors
Attempting to add event pmu 'apple_firestorm_pmu' with 'cycles,' that may result in non-fatal errors
After aliases, add event pmu 'apple_firestorm_pmu' with 'event,' that may result in non-fatal errors
Control descriptor is not initialized
------------------------------------------------------------
perf_event_attr:
type 10
size 136
config 0x2
sample_type IDENTIFIER
read_format TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
disabled 1
inherit 1
enable_on_exec 1
exclude_guest 1
------------------------------------------------------------
sys_perf_event_open: pid 1624462 cpu -1 group_fd -1 flags 0x8 = 3
------------------------------------------------------------
perf_event_attr:
type 11
size 136
config 0x2
sample_type IDENTIFIER
read_format TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
disabled 1
inherit 1
enable_on_exec 1
exclude_guest 1
------------------------------------------------------------
sys_perf_event_open: pid 1624462 cpu -1 group_fd -1 flags 0x8 = 4
------------------------------------------------------------
perf_event_attr:
size 136
sample_type IDENTIFIER
read_format TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
disabled 1
inherit 1
enable_on_exec 1
exclude_guest 1
------------------------------------------------------------
sys_perf_event_open: pid 1624462 cpu -1 group_fd -1 flags 0x8 = 5
apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/: -1: 1492180 724333 724333
apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/: -1: 0 724333 0
cycles: -1: 0 724333 0
apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/: 1492180 724333 724333
apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/: 0 724333 0
cycles: 0 724333 0
Performance counter stats for 'ls':
1,492,180 apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/
<not counted> apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/ (0.00%)
<not counted> cycles (0.00%)
0.000001917 seconds time elapsed
0.000000000 seconds user
0.000000000 seconds sys
</quote>
and on the other cluster:
<quote>
$ sudo taskset -c 2 ./perf stat -vvv -e apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/ -e apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/ -e cycles ls >/dev/null
Using CPUID 0x00000000610f0280
Attempting to add event pmu 'apple_icestorm_pmu' with 'cycles,' that may result in non-fatal errors
After aliases, add event pmu 'apple_icestorm_pmu' with 'event,' that may result in non-fatal errors
Attempting to add event pmu 'apple_firestorm_pmu' with 'cycles,' that may result in non-fatal errors
After aliases, add event pmu 'apple_firestorm_pmu' with 'event,' that may result in non-fatal errors
Control descriptor is not initialized
------------------------------------------------------------
perf_event_attr:
type 10
size 136
config 0x2
sample_type IDENTIFIER
read_format TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
disabled 1
inherit 1
enable_on_exec 1
exclude_guest 1
------------------------------------------------------------
sys_perf_event_open: pid 1624466 cpu -1 group_fd -1 flags 0x8 = 3
------------------------------------------------------------
perf_event_attr:
type 11
size 136
config 0x2
sample_type IDENTIFIER
read_format TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
disabled 1
inherit 1
enable_on_exec 1
exclude_guest 1
------------------------------------------------------------
sys_perf_event_open: pid 1624466 cpu -1 group_fd -1 flags 0x8 = 4
------------------------------------------------------------
perf_event_attr:
size 136
sample_type IDENTIFIER
read_format TOTAL_TIME_ENABLED|TOTAL_TIME_RUNNING
disabled 1
inherit 1
enable_on_exec 1
exclude_guest 1
------------------------------------------------------------
sys_perf_event_open: pid 1624466 cpu -1 group_fd -1 flags 0x8 = 5
apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/: -1: 0 593209 0
apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/: -1: 1038247 593209 593209
cycles: -1: 1037870 593209 593209
apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/: 0 593209 0
apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/: 1038247 593209 593209
cycles: 1037870 593209 593209
Performance counter stats for 'ls':
<not counted> apple_icestorm_pmu/cycles/ (0.00%)
1,038,247 apple_firestorm_pmu/cycles/
1,037,870 cycles
0.000001500 seconds time elapsed
0.000000000 seconds user
0.000000000 seconds sys
</quote>
For the record, this is on a 6.6-rc6 kernel, userspace perf as of v6.4.0.
M.
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