linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/7] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file`

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Date:   Fri, 1 Dec 2023 01:19:14 -0800
From:   Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com>,
        Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@...nel.org>,
        Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@...il.com>,
        Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@...il.com>,
        Gary Guo <gary@...yguo.net>,
        Björn Roy Baron <bjorn3_gh@...tonmail.com>,
        Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@...ton.me>,
        Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@...sung.com>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
        Todd Kjos <tkjos@...roid.com>,
        Martijn Coenen <maco@...roid.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Carlos Llamas <cmllamas@...gle.com>,
        Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Daniel Xu <dxu@...uu.xyz>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file`

On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 09:53:28AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 07:25:01AM -0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 11:42:26AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 09:08:14AM -0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > 
> > > > But but but, I then realized we have asm goto in C but Rust doesn't
> > > > support them, and I haven't thought through how hard tht would be..
> > > 
> > > You're kidding right?
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm not, but I've found this:
> > 
> > 	https://github.com/Amanieu/rfcs/blob/inline-asm/text/0000-inline-asm.md#asm-goto
> 
> Reading that makes all this even worse, apparently rust can't even use
> memops.

What do you mean by "memops"?

Regards,
Boqun

> 
> So to summarise, Rust cannot properly interop with C, it cannot do
> inline asm from this side of the millenium. Why are we even trying to
> use it again?