linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] KVM: arm64: allow the VM to select DEVICE_* and NORMAL

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Date:   Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:23:25 +0000
From:   Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
Cc:     Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@...nel.org>,
        Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>, ankita@...dia.com,
        Shameerali Kolothum Thodi 
        <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@...wei.com>, oliver.upton@...ux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] KVM: arm64: allow the VM to select DEVICE_* and
 NORMAL_NC for IO memory

On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 11:38:09AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:18:05PM +0100, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 11:05:56AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 02:49:02PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > BTW, on those Mellanox devices that require different attributes within
> > > > a BAR, do they have a problem with speculative reads causing
> > > > side-effects? 
> > > 
> > > Yes. We definitely have had that problem in the past on older
> > > devices. VFIO must map the BAR using pgprot_device/noncached() into
> > > the VMM, no other choice is functionally OK.
> > 
> > Were those BARs tagged as prefetchable or non-prefetchable ? I assume the
> > latter but please let me know if I am guessing wrong.
> 
> I don't know it was quite old HW. Probably.
> 
> Just because a BAR is not marked as prefetchable doesn't mean that the
> device can't use NORMAL_NC on subsets of it.

What about the other way around - would we have a prefetchable BAR that
has portions which are unprefetchable?

-- 
Catalin