Message-ID: <CAOUHufYwZAUaJh6i8Fazc4gVMSqcsz9JbRNpj0cpx2qR+bZBFw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 11 Dec 2023 15:06:48 -0700
From:   Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>
To:     Kairui Song <ryncsn@...il.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Charan Teja Kalla <quic_charante@...cinc.com>,
        Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@...gle.com>, stable@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v1 1/4] mm/mglru: fix underprotected page cache

On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 1:24 AM Kairui Song <ryncsn@...il.com> wrote:
>
> Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com> 于2023年12月8日周五 14:14写道：
> >
> > Unmapped folios accessed through file descriptors can be
> > underprotected. Those folios are added to the oldest generation based
> > on:
> > 1. The fact that they are less costly to reclaim (no need to walk the
> >    rmap and flush the TLB) and have less impact on performance (don't
> >    cause major PFs and can be non-blocking if needed again).
> > 2. The observation that they are likely to be single-use. E.g., for
> >    client use cases like Android, its apps parse configuration files
> >    and store the data in heap (anon); for server use cases like MySQL,
> >    it reads from InnoDB files and holds the cached data for tables in
> >    buffer pools (anon).
> >
> > However, the oldest generation can be very short lived, and if so, it
> > doesn't provide the PID controller with enough time to respond to a
> > surge of refaults. (Note that the PID controller uses weighted
> > refaults and those from evicted generations only take a half of the
> > whole weight.) In other words, for a short lived generation, the
> > moving average smooths out the spike quickly.
> >
> > To fix the problem:
> > 1. For folios that are already on LRU, if they can be beyond the
> >    tracking range of tiers, i.e., five accesses through file
> >    descriptors, move them to the second oldest generation to give them
> >    more time to age. (Note that tiers are used by the PID controller
> >    to statistically determine whether folios accessed multiple times
> >    through file descriptors are worth protecting.)
> > 2. When adding unmapped folios to LRU, adjust the placement of them so
> >    that they are not too close to the tail. The effect of this is
> >    similar to the above.
> >
> > On Android, launching 55 apps sequentially:
> >                            Before     After      Change
> >   workingset_refault_anon  25641024   25598972   0%
> >   workingset_refault_file  115016834  106178438  -8%
>
> Hi Yu,
>
> Thanks you for your amazing works on MGLRU.
>
> I believe this is the similar issue I was trying to resolve previously:
> https://lwn.net/Articles/945266/
> The idea is to use refault distance to decide if the page should be
> place in oldest generation or some other gen, which per my test,
> worked very well, and we have been using refault distance for MGLRU in
> multiple workloads.
>
> There are a few issues left in my previous RFC series, like anon pages
> in MGLRU shouldn't be considered, I wanted to collect feedback or test
> cases, but unfortunately it seems didn't get too much attention
> upstream.
>
> I think both this patch and my previous series are for solving the
> file pages underpertected issue, and I did a quick test using this
> series, for mongodb test, refault distance seems still a better
> solution (I'm not saying these two optimization are mutually exclusive
> though, just they do have some conflicts in implementation and solving
> similar problem):
>
> Previous result:
> ==================================================================
> Execution Results after 905 seconds
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>                   Executed        Time (µs)       Rate
>   STOCK_LEVEL     2542            27121571486.2   0.09 txn/s
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>   TOTAL           2542            27121571486.2   0.09 txn/s
>
> This patch:
> ==================================================================
> Execution Results after 900 seconds
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>                   Executed        Time (µs)       Rate
>   STOCK_LEVEL     1594            27061522574.4   0.06 txn/s
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>   TOTAL           1594            27061522574.4   0.06 txn/s
>
> Unpatched version is always around ~500.

Thanks for the test results!

> I think there are a few points here:
> - Refault distance make use of page shadow so it can better
> distinguish evicted pages of different access pattern (re-access
> distance).
> - Throttled refault distance can help hold part of workingset when
> memory is too small to hold the whole workingset.
>
> So maybe part of this patch and the bits of previous series can be
> combined to work better on this issue, how do you think?

I'll try to find some time this week to look at your RFC. It'd be a
lot easier for me if you could share
1. your latest tree, preferably based on the mainline, and
2. your VM image containing the above test.

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