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Message-ID: <7acefbe0-9413-48fd-ad98-56fecc6f29da@arm.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 09:12:40 +0000 From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@....com> To: Zi Yan <ziy@...dia.com> Cc: linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@...radead.org>, David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>, "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@...el.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>, Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@...weicloud.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>, Rohan Puri <rohan.puri15@...il.com>, Mcgrof Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>, Adam Manzanares <a.manzanares@...sung.com>, "Vishal Moola (Oracle)" <vishal.moola@...il.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] Enable >0 order folio memory compaction On 02/01/2024 20:50, Zi Yan wrote: > On 21 Nov 2023, at 12:11, Ryan Roberts wrote: > >> On 21/11/2023 16:45, Zi Yan wrote: >>> On 21 Nov 2023, at 10:46, Ryan Roberts wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> vm-scalability results >>>>> === >>>>> >>>>> ========================================================================================= >>>>> compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/tbox_group/test/testcase: >>>>> gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/qemu-vm/mmap-xread-seq-mt/vm-scalability >>>>> >>>>> commit: >>>>> 6.6.0-rc4-mm-everything-2023-10-21-02-40+ >>>>> 6.6.0-rc4-split-folio-in-compaction+ >>>>> 6.6.0-rc4-folio-migration-in-compaction+ >>>>> 6.6.0-rc4-folio-migration-free-page-split+ >>>>> 6.6.0-rc4-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ >>>>> >>>>> 6.6.0-rc4-mm-eve 6.6.0-rc4-split-folio-in-co 6.6.0-rc4-folio-migration-i 6.6.0-rc4-folio-migration-f 6.6.0-rc4-folio-migration-f >>>>> ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- >>>>> %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev >>>>> \ | \ | \ | \ | \ >>>>> 12896955 +2.7% 13249322 -4.0% 12385175 ± 5% +1.1% 13033951 -0.4% 12845698 vm-scalability.throughput >>>> >>>> Hi Zi, >>>> >>>> Are you able to add any commentary to these results as I'm struggling to >>>> interpret them; Is a positive or negative change better (are they times or >>>> rates?). What are the stddev values? The title suggests percent but the values >>>> are huge - I'm trying to understand what the error bars look like - are the >>>> swings real or noise? >>> >>> The metric is vm-scalability.throughput, so the larger the better. Some %stddev >>> are not present since they are too small. For 6.6.0-rc4-folio-migration-in-compaction+, >>> %stddev is greater than %change, so the change might be noise. >> >> Ahh got it - thanks! >> >>> >>> Also, I talked to DavidH in last THP Cabal meeting about this. He suggested that >>> there are a lot of noise in vm-scalability like what I have here and I should >>> run more iterations and on bare metal. I am currently rerun them on a baremetal >>> and more iterations on the existing VM and report the results later. Please >>> note that the runs really take some time. >> >> Ahh ok, I'll wait for the bare metal numbers and will disregard these for now. >> Thanks! > > It seems that the unexpected big mmap-pread-seq-mt perf drop came from the mistake I > made in patch 1. After fixing that, mmap-pread-seq-mt perf only drops 0.5%. The new > results on top of 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17 are at the end of the email. Good news! I don't see the results for mmap-pread-seq-mt below - perhaps you forgot to include it? > > I am preparing v2 and will send it out soon. > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/qemu-vm/mmap-xread-seq-mt/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 13041962 +16.1% 15142976 +5.0% 13690666 ± 6% +6.7% 13920441 +5.5% 13762582 vm-scalability.throughput I'm still not sure I'm interpretting this correctly; is %change always relative to 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17 or is it relative to the previous commit? If the former, then it looks like splitting the folios is actually faster than migrating them whole? > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/qemu-vm/mmap-pread-seq/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 14998168 -1.0% 14852803 -0.7% 14890569 -0.3% 14946766 -0.4% 14943302 vm-scalability.throughput > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/qemu-vm/lru-file-readtwice/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 6750930 ± 7% +41.5% 9549570 ± 2% +31.6% 8883545 ± 2% +33.1% 8982606 ± 2% +30.7% 8821667 ± 3% vm-scalability.throughput > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/qemu-vm/lru-file-mmap-read/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 5818610 ± 14% +43.1% 8329118 ± 2% +26.0% 7331427 ± 4% +23.2% 7170418 ± 4% +22.8% 7147458 ± 4% vm-scalability.throughput > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/qemu-vm/anon-r-rand/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 1973808 -0.2% 1969617 -0.5% 1964376 +0.3% 1979245 +1.0% 1993677 vm-scalability.throughput > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/size/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/512G/qemu-vm/anon-w-rand/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 479486 +0.3% 481036 +0.0% 479580 +2.3% 490310 +1.6% 487107 vm-scalability.throughput > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/size/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/512G/qemu-vm/anon-cow-rand/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 453237 +1.2% 458580 +0.5% 455455 +2.6% 464830 +2.6% 465211 vm-scalability.throughput > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/size/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/256G/qemu-vm/msync/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 1074404 ± 5% +78.7% 1920268 +78.7% 1920270 +77.2% 1903612 +78.0% 1912223 vm-scalability.throughput > > ========================================================================================= > compiler/kconfig/rootfs/runtime/size/tbox_group/test/testcase: > gcc-13/defconfig/debian/300s/256G/qemu-vm/msync-mt/vm-scalability > > commit: > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-everything-2023-11-15-00-17+ > 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-in-compaction+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split+ > 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-free-page-split-sort-src+ > > 6.7.0-rc1-mm-eve 6.7.0-rc1-split-folio-in-co 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-i 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f 6.7.0-rc1-folio-migration-f > ---------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- --------------------------- > %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev %change %stddev > \ | \ | \ | \ | \ > 2568988 +5.3% 2706227 +5.3% 2706214 +6.3% 2729716 +5.3% 2704539 vm-scalability.throughput > > > -- > Best Regards, > Yan, Zi
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