linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 00/45] C++: Convert the kernel to C++

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Message-ID: <20240111080634.GB4609@alberich>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:06:34 +0100
From: Andreas Herrmann <aherrmann@...e.de>
To: Neal Gompa <neal@...pa.dev>
Cc: jirislaby@...nel.org, dhowells@...hat.com, hpa@...or.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, pinskia@...il.com,
	kent.overstreet@...ux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/45] C++: Convert the kernel to C++

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 08:04:53AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Hey all,

Hi,

> I would like to speak in support of this too. It is not uncommon
> to see operating systems code written in C++ (notable examples are
> Haiku OS, Serenity OS, and Zircon/Fuschia) and I do feel that there
> are benefits to C++ for Linux code. Modern C++ (such as C++14 and
> newer), offers a lot of nice base language features that can make
> some of the kind of stuff that Linux does easier (as H. Peter Anvin
> has detailed in his post[1]).
> 
> While I personally have some experience in a variety of programming
> languages, C++ and Python are my preferred tools, and I would
> personally be much more interested in contributing in C++ than in C.
> I imagine there are a lot of other folks out there who feel the same,
> but just don't feel like they can say it. I'll stick my neck out for
> those who won't. ;)

I had some doubts, when I've seen hpa's thread and first I've thought
of it rather as a threat. But now this paragraph totally convinced me.

> Even though this started out as a "joke"[2], I really would like to
> see C++ code permitted in Linux.

Great, let University of Minnesota contribute the code.

> Thanks in advance and best regards,
> Neal
> 
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/3465e0c6-f5b2-4c42-95eb-29361481f805@zytor.com/
> [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/152261521484.30503.16131389653845029164.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk/
> 
> 
> -- 
> 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!


PS: IMO, Rust shouldn't have been allowed into the kernel tree (a gut
feeling). But who am I.

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Regards,
Andreas

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