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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 23:28:17 -0800
From: Chris Li <chrisl@...nel.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-mm@...ck.org, Wei Xu <weixugc@...gle.com>, 
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>, 
	Chun-Tse Shao <ctshao@...gle.com>, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>, 
	Brain Geffon <bgeffon@...gle.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>, 
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>, Huang Ying <ying.huang@...el.com>, 
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@...il.com>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Kairui Song <kasong@...cent.com>, 
	Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@...edance.com>, Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@...weicloud.com>, 
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@...o.com>, "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@...radead.org>, 
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>, Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>, 
	Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@...edance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] RFC: zswap tree use xarray instead of RB tree

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:05 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> The name changes from Chris to Christopher are confusing :D
>
> >
> > I think it makes the review easier. The code adding and removing does
> > not have much overlap. Combining it to a single patch does not save
> > patch size. Having the assert check would be useful for some bisecting
> > to narrow down which step causing the problem. I am fine with squash
> > it to one patch as well.
>
> I think having two patches is unnecessarily noisy, and we add some
> debug code in this patch that we remove in the next patch anyway.
> Let's see what others think, but personally I prefer a single patch.
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I expect to merge the zswap rb tree spin lock with the xarray
> > > > lock in the follow up changes.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't this simply be changing uses of tree->lock to use
> > > xa_{lock/unlock}? We also need to make sure we don't try to lock the
> > > tree when operating on the xarray if the caller is already holding the
> > > lock, but this seems to be straightforward enough to be done as part
> > > of this patch or this series at least.
> > >
> > > Am I missing something?
> >
> > Currently the zswap entry refcount is protected by the zswap tree spin
> > lock as well. Can't remove the tree spin lock without changing the
> > refcount code. I think the zswap search entry should just return the
> > entry with refcount atomic increase, inside the RCU read() or xarray
> > lock. The previous zswap code does the find_and_get entry() which is
> > closer to what I want.
>
> I think this can be done in an RCU read section surrounding xa_load()

xa_load() already has RCU read lock inside. If you do that you might
just as well use some XAS API to work with the lock directly.

> and the refcount increment. Didn't look closely to check how much
> complexity this adds to manage refcounts with RCU, but I think there
> should be a lot of examples all around the kernel.

The complexity is not adding the refcount inside xa_load(). It is on
the zswap code that calls zswap_search() and zswap_{insert,erase}().
As far as I can tell, those codes need some tricky changes to go along
with the refcount change.

>
> IIUC, there are no performance benefits from this conversion until we
> remove the tree spinlock, right?

The original intent is helping the long tail case. RB tree has worse
long tails than xarray. I expect it will help the page fault long tail
even without removing the tree spinlock.

Chris

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