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Message-ID: <ZbGkZlFmi1war6vq@google.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:59:34 -0800
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To: Brilliant Hanabi <moehanabichan@...il.com>
Cc: bp@...en8.de, dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com, hpa@...or.com, 
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...hat.com, 
	pbonzini@...hat.com, tglx@...utronix.de, x86@...nel.org
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: Check irqchip mode before create PIT

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, Brilliant Hanabi wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, moehanabi wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, Brilliant Hanabi wrote:
> > > > > As the kvm api(https://docs.kernel.org/virt/kvm/api.html) reads,
> > > > > KVM_CREATE_PIT2 call is only valid after enabling in-kernel irqchip
> > > > > support via KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Without this check, I can create PIT first and enable irqchip-split
> > > > > then, which may cause the PIT invalid because of lacking of in-kernel
> > > > > PIC to inject the interrupt.
> > > > 
> > > > Does this cause actual problems beyond the PIT not working for the guest?  E.g.
> > > > does it put the host kernel at risk?  If the only problem is that the PIT doesn't
> > > > work as expected, I'm tempted to tweak the docs to say that KVM's PIT emulation
> > > > won't work without an in-kernel I/O APIC.  Rejecting the ioctl could theoertically
> > > > break misconfigured setups that happen to work, e.g. because the guest never uses
> > > > the PIT.
> > > 
> > > I don't think it will put the host kernel at risk. But that's exactly what
> > > kvmtool does: it creates in-kernel PIT first and set KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP then.
> > 
> > Right.  My concern, which could be unfounded paranoia, is that rejecting an ioctl()
> > that used to succeed could break existing setups.  E.g. if a userspace VMM creates
> > a PIT and checks the ioctl() result, but its guest(s) never actually use the PIT
> > and so don't care that the PIT is busted.
> 
> Thanks for your review. In my opinion, it is better to avoid potential bugs
> which is difficult to detect, as long as you can return errors to let
> developers know about them in advance, although the kernel is not to blame
> for this bug.

Oh, I completely agree that explict errors are far better.  My only concern is
that there's a teeny tiny chance that rejecting an ioctl() that used to work
could break userspace.

> > > I found this problem because I was working on implementing a userspace PIC
> > > and PIT in kvmtool. As I planned, I'm going to commit a related patch to 
> > > kvmtool if this patch will be applied.
> > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Brilliant Hanabi <moehanabichan@...il.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 2 ++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > > > index 27e23714e960..3edc8478310f 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > > > @@ -7016,6 +7016,8 @@ int kvm_arch_vm_ioctl(struct file *filp, unsigned int ioctl, unsigned long arg)
> > > > >  		r = -EEXIST;
> > > > >  		if (kvm->arch.vpit)
> > > > >  			goto create_pit_unlock;
> > > > > +		if (!pic_in_kernel(kvm))
> > > > > +			goto create_pit_unlock;
> > > > 
> > > > -EEXIST is not an appropriate errno.
> > > 
> > > Which errno do you think is better?
> > 
> > Maybe ENOENT?
> >
> 
> I'm glad to send a new version patch if you're willing to accept the
> patch.

Go ahead and send v2.  I'll get Paolo's thoughts on whether or not this is likely
to break userspace and we can go from there.

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