linux-kernel - Re: Western Digital SSD freezes on power saving

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Message-ID: <9a4d69f0b7a4fa923cf247823a9081df76662125.camel@t-online.de>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:25:33 +0100
From: Frank Tornack <f-tornack@...nline.de>
To: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com>, Linux Kernel Mailing List
 <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Linux NVMe <linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@...nel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...com>, Christoph
 Hellwig <hch@....de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>, Chaitanya Kulkarni
 <kch@...dia.com>,  Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>, Damien Le Moal
 <dlemoal@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: Western Digital SSD freezes on power saving

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Hi

I am trying to explain the bug, which I understand also existed with
other manufacturers and could be solved with an update for many
devices, but there was no update for my SSD.

As far as I know, the SSD does not wake up or wakes up too late after
the deepest APST sleep state. As far as I know, this could be because
the values in the firmware for the wake-up time are given to the OS too
optimistically or because the SSD does not wake up at all.

I found the same problem for Kingston
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=538e4a8c571efdf131834431e0c14808bcfb1004

And what I had used to get it working on my old device:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Solid_state_drive/NVMe#Controller_failure_due_to_broken_APST_support

Would you please describe what else confuses you? Then I'll try to
clarify it.

Am Sonntag, dem 28.01.2024 um 21:04 +0700 schrieb Bagas Sanjaya:
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 01:26:23PM +0100, Frank Tornack wrote:
> > Hash: SHA512
> > 
> > Hello Linux kernel developers and experts,
> > 
> > I have a question that I think is not tied to a specific
> > distribution
> > and goes pretty deep into the Linux kernel. I hope you can help me
> > without subscribing to the mailing list and remember to include me
> > in
> > the answer discussion. 
> > 
> > In my old notebook I used an nvme-ssd from WD (wds500g1b0c-00s6u0),
> > which is affected by a well-known bug. I currently use the
> > parameter
> > `nvme_core.default_ps_max_latency_us=0` to prevent the system from
> > freezing. 
> > 
> 
> What well-known bug?
> 
> > I would like to use a new SSD in my new notebook. However, as it is
> > difficult to sell used SSDs, I would like to continue using the old
> > SSD
> > affected by the bug. I plan to move the SSD to a Thunderbolt
> > enclosure
> > for this purpose. I think since Thunderbolt is based on PCIe, the
> > same
> > energy saving measures and the associated bugs will probably apply.
> > 
> > In the hope that my new SSD doesn't have the same bug, I would
> > prefer
> > not to disable the Powersafe in the laptop. Is there a way to set
> > this
> > flag only for a specific SSD? By identifying it by name or serial
> > number? 
> > 
> > I apologise prophylactically if my question is completely out of
> > place
> > and thank you for your help. As a long-time Linux user, I would
> > also
> > like to thank you in general. If you have any follow-up questions,
> > please do not hesitate to contact me.
> > 
> 
> Confused...
> 

- -- 
Frank Tornack <f-tornack@...nline.de>
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