linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 15/15] nvme: Ensure atomic writes will be executed atomically

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Message-ID: <ca58facd-db6b-42b2-ace3-595817c81ca9@oracle.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:36:38 +0000
From: John Garry <john.g.garry@...cle.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, martin.petersen@...cle.com
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@...nel.org>, axboe@...nel.dk, sagi@...mberg.me,
        jejb@...ux.ibm.com, djwong@...nel.org, viro@...iv.linux.org.uk,
        brauner@...nel.org, dchinner@...hat.com, jack@...e.cz,
        linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org, linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, tytso@....edu, jbongio@...gle.com,
        linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, ming.lei@...hat.com, ojaswin@...ux.ibm.com,
        bvanassche@....org, Alan Adamson <alan.adamson@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/15] nvme: Ensure atomic writes will be executed
 atomically

On 29/01/2024 06:20, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:28:22AM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>> We have limits checks in XFS iomap and fops.c, but we would also want to
>> ensure that the the block layer is not doing anything it shouldn't be doing
>> after submit_bio_noacct(), like merging atomic write BIOs which straddle a
>> boundary or exceed atomic_max (if there were any merging).
>>
>> The SCSI standard already has provision for error'ing an atomic write
>> command which exceeds the target atomic write capabilities, while NVMe
>> doesn't.
> 
> Can you get Oracle to propose this for NVMe?  It always helps if these
> suggestions come from a large buyer of NVMe equipment.

I'll let Martin comment on that.

> 
>> BTW, Christoph did mention that he would like to see this:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20231109153603.GA2188@lst.de/
> 
> I can probably live with a sufficiently low-level block layer check.

That would probably be in blk_mq_dispatch_rq_list() for block drivers 
with .queue_rq set, but I would need to check for a good place for 
->queue_rqs . I can't imagine that we just want to inefficiently iter 
all rqs at the ->queue_rqs call point.

However considering the nature of this change, it is not a good sign 
that we/I need to check... I'd be more inclined to leave as is.

Thanks,
John