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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 21:46:45 +0800
From: Lance Yang <ioworker0@...il.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
Cc: akpm@...ux-foundation.org, zokeefe@...gle.com, david@...hat.com, 
	songmuchun@...edance.com, shy828301@...il.com, peterx@...hat.com, 
	minchan@...nel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm/khugepaged: skip copying lazyfree pages on collapse

Here is a part from the man page explaining
the MADV_FREE semantics:

The kernel can thus free thesepages, but the
freeing could be delayed until memory pressure
occurs. For each of the pages that has been
marked to be freed but has not yet been freed,
the free operation will be canceled if the caller
writes into the page. If there is no subsequent
write, the kernel can free the pages at any time.

IIUC, if there is no subsequent write, lazyfree
pages will eventually be reclaimed. khugepaged
treats lazyfree pages the same as pte_none,
avoiding copying them to the new huge page
during collapse. It seems that lazyfree pages
are reclaimed before khugepaged collapses them.
This aligns with user expectations.

However, IMO, if the content of MADV_FREE pages
remains valid during collapse, then khugepaged
treating lazyfree pages the same as pte_none
might not be suitable.

Thanks,
Lance

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:57 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri 02-02-24 20:52:48, Lance Yang wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:27 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri 02-02-24 19:18:31, Lance Yang wrote:
> > > > IMO, since it's treated the same as pte_none,
> > > > perhaps lazyfree pages shouldn't be copied to
> > > > the new huge page.
> > >
> > > Why? The content of MADV_FREE page is valid until it is reclaimed.
> >
> > IMO, if MADV_FREE pages are considered valid until
> > reclaimed, treating them the same as pte_none might
> > pose a conflict.
>
> What kind of conflict?
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

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