linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] pidfd: change pidfd_send_signal() to respect PIDFD

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Message-ID: <20240210131518.GC27557@redhat.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:15:18 +0100
From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.pizza>, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] pidfd: change pidfd_send_signal() to respect
 PIDFD_THREAD

On 02/10, Christian Brauner wrote:
>
> The question is what is more useful for userspace when they do:
> pidfd_send_signal(1234, PIDFD_SEND_PROCESS_GROUP)?
>
> (1) They either mean to signal a process group that is headed by 1234.

Yes, this is what I had in mind, see also another email from me.
Simple, clear, and matches kill(-1234).

> (2) Or they want to signal a process group of which 1234 is a member or
>     the leader.

Somehow I didn't even consider this option when I thought about
PIDFD_SIGNAL_PGRP...

> From a usability perspective (1) is a lot more restrictive because it
> requires @pidfd to refer to a process group leader.

Yes, but to be honest (2) doesn't fit my head. Probably simply because
I always had (1) in mind...

But I won't argue if you think that (2) has useful usecases.

Oleg.