linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] Combine perf and bpf for fast eval of hw breakpoint conditions

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CAM9d7chDGjpQ7dJ_EvhaV3RpudDw6e1ns-MZ=T0Q_nkKb4NvEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:35:39 -0800
From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
To: Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>, Kyle Huey <khuey@...ehuey.com>, 
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>, 
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>, 
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@...ux.dev>, "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@...llahan.org>, 
	bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] Combine perf and bpf for fast eval of hw
 breakpoint conditions

Hello,

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:57 PM Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 6:42 PM Alexei Starovoitov
> <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 8:37 AM Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:25 PM Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > rr, a userspace record and replay debugger[0], replays asynchronous events
> > > > such as signals and context switches by essentially[1] setting a breakpoint
> > > > at the address where the asynchronous event was delivered during recording
> > > > with a condition that the program state matches the state when the event
> > > > was delivered.
> > > >
> > > > Currently, rr uses software breakpoints that trap (via ptrace) to the
> > > > supervisor, and evaluates the condition from the supervisor. If the
> > > > asynchronous event is delivered in a tight loop (thus requiring the
> > > > breakpoint condition to be repeatedly evaluated) the overhead can be
> > > > immense. A patch to rr that uses hardware breakpoints via perf events with
> > > > an attached BPF program to reject breakpoint hits where the condition is
> > > > not satisfied reduces rr's replay overhead by 94% on a pathological (but a
> > > > real customer-provided, not contrived) rr trace.
> > > >
> > > > The only obstacle to this approach is that while the kernel allows a BPF
> > > > program to suppress sample output when a perf event overflows it does not
> > > > suppress signalling the perf event fd or sending the perf event's SIGTRAP.
> > > > This patch set redesigns __perf_overflow_handler() and
> > > > bpf_overflow_handler() so that the former invokes the latter directly when
> > > > appropriate rather than through the generic overflow handler machinery,
> > > > passes the return code of the BPF program back to __perf_overflow_handler()
> > > > to allow it to decide whether to execute the regular overflow handler,
> > > > reorders bpf_overflow_handler() and the side effects of perf event
> > > > overflow, changes __perf_overflow_handler() to suppress those side effects
> > > > if the BPF program returns zero, and adds a selftest.
> > > >
> > > > The previous version of this patchset can be found at
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/20240119001352.9396-1-khuey@kylehuey.com/
> > > >
> > > > Changes since v4:
> > > >
> > > > Patches 1, 2, 3, 4 added various Acked-by.
> > > >
> > > > Patch 4 addresses additional nits from Song.
> > > >
> > > > v3 of this patchset can be found at
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/20231211045543.31741-1-khuey@kylehuey.com/
> > > >
> > > > Changes since v3:
> > > >
> > > > Patches 1, 2, 3 added various Acked-by.
> > > >
> > > > Patch 4 addresses Song's review comments by dropping signals_expected and the
> > > > corresponding ASSERT_OKs, handling errors from signal(), and fixing multiline
> > > > comment formatting.
> > > >
> > > > v2 of this patchset can be found at
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/20231207163458.5554-1-khuey@kylehuey.com/
> > > >
> > > > Changes since v2:
> > > >
> > > > Patches 1 and 2 were added from a suggestion by Namhyung Kim to refactor
> > > > this code to implement this feature in a cleaner way. Patch 2 is separated
> > > > for the benefit of the ARM arch maintainers.
> > > >
> > > > Patch 3 conceptually supercedes v2's patches 1 and 2, now with a cleaner
> > > > implementation thanks to the earlier refactoring.
> > > >
> > > > Patch 4 is v2's patch 3, and addresses review comments about C++ style
> > > > comments, getting a TRAP_PERF definition into the test, and unnecessary
> > > > NULL checks.
> > > >
> > > > [0] https://rr-project.org/
> > > > [1] Various optimizations exist to skip as much as execution as possible
> > > > before setting a breakpoint, and to determine a set of program state that
> > > > is practical to check and verify.
> > >
> > > Since everyone seems to be satisfied with this now, can we get it into
> > > bpf-next (or wherever) for 6.9?
> >
> > The changes look fine, but since they change perf side we need
> > perf maintainer's ack-s before we can land the patches.
> > And none of them were cc-ed.
> > So please resend the whole set and cc
> > PERFORMANCE EVENTS SUBSYSTEM
> > M:      Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
> > M:      Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>
> > M:      Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>
> > M:      Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
>
> They're all CCd to the three non-test patches in this set, Namhyung
> Kim is CCd to all of them and this cover email, and he both suggested
> the first patch and acked the third.

I think we need to wait for Peter or Ingo for the kernel part.

Thanks,
Namhyung