linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/swap: queue reclaimable folio to local rotate batch when !folio_test

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Message-ID: <CAOUHufYa8QWXoR8VLG0_Nwks0kU5BSHoQCGWBsT=SxHJScEoYg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 03:08:27 -0500
From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>
To: Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@...ux.dev>
Cc: willy@...radead.org, hannes@...xchg.org, yosryahmed@...gle.com, 
	nphamcs@...il.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-mm@...ck.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@...edance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/swap: queue reclaimable folio to local rotate
 batch when !folio_test_lru()

On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 9:52 PM Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@...ux.dev> wrote:
>
> On 2024/2/15 15:06, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 4:18 AM Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@...ux.dev> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2024/2/14 15:13, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 6:00 AM <chengming.zhou@...ux.dev> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@...edance.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> All LRU move interfaces have a problem that it has no effect if the
> >>>> folio is isolated from LRU (in cpu batch or isolated by shrinker).
> >>>> Since it can't move/change folio LRU status when it's isolated, mostly
> >>>> just clear the folio flag and do nothing in this case.
> >>>>
> >>>> In our case, a written back and reclaimable folio won't be rotated to
> >>>> the tail of inactive list, since it's still in cpu lru_add batch. It
> >>>> may cause the delayed reclaim of this folio and evict other folios.
> >>>>
> >>>> This patch changes to queue the reclaimable folio to cpu rotate batch
> >>>> even when !folio_test_lru(), hoping it will likely be handled after
> >>>> the lru_add batch which will put folio on the LRU list first, so
> >>>> will be rotated to the tail successfully when handle rotate batch.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@...edance.com>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think the analysis is correct. IIRC, writeback from non
> >>> reclaim paths doesn't require isolation and the reclaim path doesn't
> >>> use struct folio_batch lru_add.
> >>
> >> Ah, my bad, I forgot to mention the important context in the message:
> >>
> >> This is not from the normal reclaim context, it's from zswap writeback
> >> reclaim context, which will first set PG_reclaim flag, then submit the
> >> async writeback io.
> >>
> >> If the writeback io complete fast enough, folio_rotate_reclaimable()
> >> will be called before that folio put on LRU list (it still in the local
> >> lru_add batch, so it's somewhat like isolated too)
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Did you see any performance improvements with this patch? In general,
> >>> this kind of patches should have performance numbers to show it really
> >>> helps (not just in theory).
> >>
> >> Right, there are some improvements, the numbers are put in cover letter.
> >> But this solution is not good enough, just RFC for discussion. :)
> >>
> >>                            mm-unstable-hot   zswap-lru-reclaim
> >> real                       63.34             62.72
> >> user                       1063.20           1060.30
> >> sys                        272.04            256.14
> >> workingset_refault_anon    2103297.00        1788155.80
> >> workingset_refault_file    28638.20          39249.40
> >> workingset_activate_anon   746134.00         695435.40
> >> workingset_activate_file   4344.60           4255.80
> >> workingset_restore_anon    653163.80         605315.60
> >> workingset_restore_file    1079.00           883.00
> >> workingset_nodereclaim     0.00              0.00
> >> pgscan                     12971305.60       12730331.20
> >> pgscan_kswapd              0.00              0.00
> >> pgscan_direct              12971305.60       12730331.20
> >> pgscan_khugepaged          0.00              0.00
> >>
> >>>
> >>> My guess is that you are hitting this problem [1].
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20221116013808.3995280-1-yuzhao@google.com/
> >>
> >> Right, I just see it, it's the same problem. The only difference is that
> >> in your case the folio is isolated by shrinker, in my case, the folio is
> >> in cpu lru_add batch. Anyway, the result is the same, that folio can't be
> >> rotated successfully when writeback complete.
> >
> > In that case, a better solution would be to make lru_add add
> > (_reclaim() && !_dirty() && !_writeback()) folios at the tail.
> > (_rotate() needs to leave _reclaim() set if it fails to rotate.)
>
> Right, this is a solution. But PG_readahead is alias of PG_reclaim,
> I'm afraid this would rotate readahead folio to the inactive tail.

Then drain before setting readahead, since readahead isn't set on every folio.