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Message-ID: <20240220-anlegen-feinmechaniker-3c2cfcc3ec01@brauner>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:59:56 +0100
From: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>, 
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>, Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.pizza>, linux-api@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] pidfd: change pidfd_send_signal() to respect
 PIDFD_THREAD

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:00:12PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/20, Christian Brauner wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:02:56AM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. IIRC criu uses this hack to restore the pending (arbitrary) signals
> > > collected at dump time.
> > >
> > > I was a bit surprise sys_pidfd_send_signal() allows this hack too, I don't
> >
> > I think that we simply mirrored the restrictions in the other system
> > calls.
> >
> > > think that criu uses pidfd at restore time, but I do not know.
> >
> > Hm, I just checked and it doesn't use pidfd_send_signal(). It uses
> > pidfds but only for pid reuse detection for RPC clients.
> 
> But perhaps something else already uses pidfd_send_signal() with info != NULL
> or with info->si_code == SI_USER, we can't know. Please see below.
> 
> > So right now si_code is blocked for >= 0 and for SI_TKILL. If we were to
> > simply ensure that si_code can't be < 0 then this amounts to effectively
> > blocking @info from being filled in by userspace at all. Because 0 is a
> > valid value.
> 
> I'am afraid I misunderstand you again... 0 == SI_USER is not a valid value
> when siginfo != NULL.

Yes, I know. We're on the same page. I would just have preferred to
restrict remulating si_code completely because we don't know whether
that's actually used for pidfd_send_signal(). The point I was trying to
make is that si_code has no value that means "unset" so restricting
si_code further means always rejecting @info when it's passed.

> 
> Perhaps we can kill the "task_pid(current) != pid" check and just return
> EPERM if "kinfo.si_code >= 0 || kinfo.si_code == SI_TKILL", I don't think
> anobody needs pidfd_send_send_signal() to signal yourself. See below.

Yeah.

> 
> > +       /* Currently unused. */
> > +       if (info)
> > +               return -EINVAL;
> 
> Well, to me this looks like the unnecessary restriction... And why?

Because right now we aren't sure that it's used and we aren't sure what
use-cases are there.

> 
> But whatever we do,
> 
> > -               /* Only allow sending arbitrary signals to yourself. */
> > -               ret = -EPERM;
> > -               if ((task_pid(current) != pid) &&
> > -                   (kinfo.si_code >= 0 || kinfo.si_code == SI_TKILL))
> > -                       goto err;
> 
> Can I suggest to fix this check in your tree (add type > PIDTYPE_TGID as
> we discussed) first, then do other changes on top?

Yes, absolutely. That was always the plan. See appended patch I put on top.
I put you as author since you did spot this. Let me know if you don't
want that.

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