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Message-ID: <fe8462ae-9144-6925-1679-a5079e5b0556@amd.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:06:16 +0530
From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@....com>
To: Tobias Huschle <huschle@...ux.ibm.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Cc: mingo@...hat.com, peterz@...radead.org, juri.lelli@...hat.com,
 vincent.guittot@...aro.org, dietmar.eggemann@....com, rostedt@...dmis.org,
 bsegall@...gle.com, mgorman@...e.de, bristot@...hat.com,
 vschneid@...hat.com, sshegde@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
 linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@...soc.com>,
 xuewen.yan94@...il.com, ke.wang@...soc.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched/eevdf: sched feature to dismiss lag on wakeup

(+ Xuewen Yan, Ke Wang)

Hello Tobias,

On 2/28/2024 9:40 PM, Tobias Huschle wrote:
> The previously used CFS scheduler gave tasks that were woken up an
> enhanced chance to see runtime immediately by deducting a certain value
> from its vruntime on runqueue placement during wakeup.
> 
> This property was used by some, at least vhost, to ensure, that certain
> kworkers are scheduled immediately after being woken up. The EEVDF
> scheduler, does not support this so far. Instead, if such a woken up
> entitiy carries a negative lag from its previous execution, it will have
> to wait for the current time slice to finish, which affects the
> performance of the process expecting the immediate execution negatively.
> 
> To address this issue, implement EEVDF strategy #2 for rejoining
> entities, which dismisses the lag from previous execution and allows
> the woken up task to run immediately (if no other entities are deemed
> to be preferred for scheduling by EEVDF).
> 
> The vruntime is decremented by an additional value of 1 to make sure,
> that the woken up tasks gets to actually run. This is of course not
> following strategy #2 in an exact manner but guarantees the expected
> behavior for the scenario described above. Without the additional
> decrement, the performance goes south even more. So there are some
> side effects I could not get my head around yet.
> 
> Questions:
> 1. The kworker getting its negative lag occurs in the following scenario
>    - kworker and a cgroup are supposed to execute on the same CPU
>    - one task within the cgroup is executing and wakes up the kworker
>    - kworker with 0 lag, gets picked immediately and finishes its
>      execution within ~5000ns
>    - on dequeue, kworker gets assigned a negative lag
>    Is this expected behavior? With this short execution time, I would
>    expect the kworker to be fine.
>    For a more detailed discussion on this symptom, please see:
>    https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/ZWbapeL34Z8AMR5f@DESKTOP-2CCOB1S./T/

Does the lag clamping path from Xuewen Yan [1] work for the vhost case
mentioned in the thread? Instead of placing the task just behind the
0-lag point, clamping the lag seems to be more principled approach since
EEVDF already does it in update_entity_lag().

If the lag is still too large, maybe the above coupled with Peter's
delayed dequeue patch can help [2] (Note: tree is prone to force
updates)

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240130080643.1828-1-xuewen.yan@unisoc.com/
[2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/peterz/queue.git/commit/?h=sched/eevdf&id=e62ef63a888c97188a977daddb72b61548da8417

> 2. The proposed code change of course only addresses the symptom. Am I
>    assuming correctly that this is in general the exepected behavior and
>    that the task waking up the kworker should rather do an explicit
>    reschedule of itself to grant the kworker time to execute?
>    In the vhost case, this is currently attempted through a cond_resched
>    which is not doing anything because the need_resched flag is not set.
> 
> Feedback and opinions would be highly appreciated.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Tobias Huschle <huschle@...ux.ibm.com>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c     | 5 +++++
>  kernel/sched/features.h | 1 +
>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 533547e3c90a..c20ae6d62961 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -5239,6 +5239,11 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
>  		lag = div_s64(lag, load);
>  	}
>  
> +	if (sched_feat(NOLAG_WAKEUP) && (flags & ENQUEUE_WAKEUP)) {
> +		se->vlag = 0;
> +		lag = 1;
> +	}
> +
>  	se->vruntime = vruntime - lag;
>  
>  	/*
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/features.h b/kernel/sched/features.h
> index 143f55df890b..d3118e7568b4 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/features.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
> @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
>  SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_LAG, true)
>  SCHED_FEAT(PLACE_DEADLINE_INITIAL, true)
>  SCHED_FEAT(RUN_TO_PARITY, true)
> +SCHED_FEAT(NOLAG_WAKEUP, true)
>  
>  /*
>   * Prefer to schedule the task we woke last (assuming it failed

--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek

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