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Message-ID: <87frx6btqp.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2024 10:45:02 +0800
From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>
To: "Ho-Ren (Jack) Chuang" <horenchuang@...edance.com>
Cc: "Hao Xiang" <hao.xiang@...edance.com>,  "Gregory Price"
 <gourry.memverge@...il.com>,  aneesh.kumar@...ux.ibm.com,
  mhocko@...e.com,  tj@...nel.org,  john@...alactic.com,  "Eishan Mirakhur"
 <emirakhur@...ron.com>,  "Vinicius Tavares Petrucci"
 <vtavarespetr@...ron.com>,  "Ravis OpenSrc" <Ravis.OpenSrc@...ron.com>,
  "Alistair Popple" <apopple@...dia.com>,  "Rafael J. Wysocki"
 <rafael@...nel.org>,  Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>,  Andrew Morton
 <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,  Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@...el.com>,  Dan
 Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,  Jonathan Cameron
 <Jonathan.Cameron@...wei.com>,  linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org,
  linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,  linux-mm@...ck.org,  "Ho-Ren (Jack)
 Chuang" <horenc@...edu>,  "Ho-Ren (Jack) Chuang" <horenchuang@...il.com>,
  linux-cxl@...r.kernel.org,  qemu-devel@...gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/1] Improved Memory Tier Creation for CPUless NUMA
 Nodes

"Ho-Ren (Jack) Chuang" <horenchuang@...edance.com> writes:

> The memory tiering component in the kernel is functionally useless for
> CPUless memory/non-DRAM devices like CXL1.1 type3 memory because the nodes
> are lumped together in the DRAM tier.
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/PH0PR08MB7955E9F08CCB64F23963B5C3A860A@PH0PR08MB7955.namprd08.prod.outlook.com/T/

I think that it's unfair to call it "useless".  Yes, it doesn't work if
the CXL memory device are not enumerate via drivers/dax/kmem.c.  So,
please be specific about in which cases it doesn't work instead of too
general "useless".

> This patchset automatically resolves the issues. It delays the initialization
> of memory tiers for CPUless NUMA nodes until they obtain HMAT information
> at boot time, eliminating the need for user intervention.
> If no HMAT specified, it falls back to using `default_dram_type`.
>
> Example usecase:
> We have CXL memory on the host, and we create VMs with a new system memory
> device backed by host CXL memory. We inject CXL memory performance attributes
> through QEMU, and the guest now sees memory nodes with performance attributes
> in HMAT. With this change, we enable the guest kernel to construct
> the correct memory tiering for the memory nodes.
>
> Ho-Ren (Jack) Chuang (1):
>   memory tier: acpi/hmat: create CPUless memory tiers after obtaining
>     HMAT info
>
>  drivers/acpi/numa/hmat.c     |  3 ++
>  include/linux/memory-tiers.h |  6 +++
>  mm/memory-tiers.c            | 76 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>  3 files changed, 77 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)

--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

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