Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 12:05:23 +0000
From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND 00/16] Split IOMMU DMA mapping operation to two steps

On 2024-03-05 11:18 am, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> This is complimentary part to the proposed LSF/MM topic.
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-rdma/22df55f8-cf64-4aa8-8c0b-b556c867b926@linux.dev/T/#m85672c860539fdbbc8fe0f5ccabdc05b40269057
> 
> This is posted as RFC to get a feedback on proposed split, but RDMA, VFIO and
> DMA patches are ready for review and inclusion, the NVMe patches are still in
> progress as they require agreement on API first.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The DMA mapping operation performs two steps at one same time: allocates
> IOVA space and actually maps DMA pages to that space. This one shot
> operation works perfectly for non-complex scenarios, where callers use
> that DMA API in control path when they setup hardware.
> 
> However in more complex scenarios, when DMA mapping is needed in data
> path and especially when some sort of specific datatype is involved,
> such one shot approach has its drawbacks.
> 
> That approach pushes developers to introduce new DMA APIs for specific
> datatype. For example existing scatter-gather mapping functions, or
> latest Chuck's RFC series to add biovec related DMA mapping [1] and
> probably struct folio will need it too.
> 
> These advanced DMA mapping APIs are needed to calculate IOVA size to
> allocate it as one chunk and some sort of offset calculations to know
> which part of IOVA to map.

I don't follow this part at all - at *some* point, something must know a 
range of memory addresses involved in a DMA transfer, so that's where it 
should map that range for DMA. Even in a badly-designed system where the 
point it's most practical to make the mapping is further out and only 
knows that DMA will touch some subset of a buffer, but doesn't know 
exactly what subset yet, you'd usually just map the whole buffer. I 
don't see why the DMA API would ever need to know about anything other 
than pages/PFNs and dma_addr_ts (yes, it does also accept them being 
wrapped together in scatterlists; yes, scatterlists are awful and it 
would be nice to replace them with a better general DMA descriptor; that 
is a whole other subject of its own).

> Instead of teaching DMA to know these specific datatypes, let's separate
> existing DMA mapping routine to two steps and give an option to advanced
> callers (subsystems) perform all calculations internally in advance and
> map pages later when it is needed.

 From a brief look, this is clearly an awkward reinvention of the IOMMU 
API. If IOMMU-aware drivers/subsystems want to explicitly manage IOMMU 
address spaces then they can and should use the IOMMU API. Perhaps 
there's room for some quality-of-life additions to the IOMMU API to help 
with common usage patterns, but the generic DMA mapping API is 
absolutely not the place for it.

Thanks,
Robin.

> In this series, three users are converted and each of such conversion
> presents different positive gain:
> 1. RDMA simplifies and speeds up its pagefault handling for
>     on-demand-paging (ODP) mode.
> 2. VFIO PCI live migration code saves huge chunk of memory.
> 3. NVMe PCI avoids intermediate SG table manipulation and operates
>     directly on BIOs.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/169772852492.5232.17148564580779995849.stgit@klimt.1015granger.net
> 
> Chaitanya Kulkarni (2):
>    block: add dma_link_range() based API
>    nvme-pci: use blk_rq_dma_map() for NVMe SGL
> 
> Leon Romanovsky (14):
>    mm/hmm: let users to tag specific PFNs
>    dma-mapping: provide an interface to allocate IOVA
>    dma-mapping: provide callbacks to link/unlink pages to specific IOVA
>    iommu/dma: Provide an interface to allow preallocate IOVA
>    iommu/dma: Prepare map/unmap page functions to receive IOVA
>    iommu/dma: Implement link/unlink page callbacks
>    RDMA/umem: Preallocate and cache IOVA for UMEM ODP
>    RDMA/umem: Store ODP access mask information in PFN
>    RDMA/core: Separate DMA mapping to caching IOVA and page linkage
>    RDMA/umem: Prevent UMEM ODP creation with SWIOTLB
>    vfio/mlx5: Explicitly use number of pages instead of allocated length
>    vfio/mlx5: Rewrite create mkey flow to allow better code reuse
>    vfio/mlx5: Explicitly store page list
>    vfio/mlx5: Convert vfio to use DMA link API
> 
>   Documentation/core-api/dma-attributes.rst |   7 +
>   block/blk-merge.c                         | 156 ++++++++++++++
>   drivers/infiniband/core/umem_odp.c        | 219 +++++++------------
>   drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/mlx5_ib.h      |   1 +
>   drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/odp.c          |  59 +++--
>   drivers/iommu/dma-iommu.c                 | 129 ++++++++---
>   drivers/nvme/host/pci.c                   | 220 +++++--------------
>   drivers/vfio/pci/mlx5/cmd.c               | 252 ++++++++++++----------
>   drivers/vfio/pci/mlx5/cmd.h               |  22 +-
>   drivers/vfio/pci/mlx5/main.c              | 136 +++++-------
>   include/linux/blk-mq.h                    |   9 +
>   include/linux/dma-map-ops.h               |  13 ++
>   include/linux/dma-mapping.h               |  39 ++++
>   include/linux/hmm.h                       |   3 +
>   include/rdma/ib_umem_odp.h                |  22 +-
>   include/rdma/ib_verbs.h                   |  54 +++++
>   kernel/dma/debug.h                        |   2 +
>   kernel/dma/direct.h                       |   7 +-
>   kernel/dma/mapping.c                      |  91 ++++++++
>   mm/hmm.c                                  |  34 +--
>   20 files changed, 870 insertions(+), 605 deletions(-)
> 

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