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Message-ID: <CAB=NE6V+HroMv4vNBJkCu_6Sbu08mPh0ZBadDEQxOKWoKoBk1w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:55:55 -0800
From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>
Cc: Song Liu <song@...nel.org>, Calvin Owens <jcalvinowens@...il.com>, 
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@...roup.eu>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>, 
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, 
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, 
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>, Naveen N Rao <naveen.n.rao@...ux.ibm.com>, 
	Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@...el.com>, David S Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, 
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, bpf@...r.kernel.org, linux-modules@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Make bpf_jit and kprobes work with CONFIG_MODULES=n

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 6:50 PM Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:58:14 -0800
> Song Liu <song@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Calvin,
> >
> > It is great to hear from you! :)
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:23 PM Calvin Owens <jcalvinowens@...ilcom> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 03/06 at 13:34 -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 12:05:07PM -0800, Calvin Owens wrote:
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > This patchset makes it possible to use bpftrace with kprobes on kernels
> > > > > built without loadable module support.
> > > >
> > > > This is a step in the right direction for another reason: clearly the
> > > > module_alloc() is not about modules, and we have special reasons for it
> > > > now beyond modules. The effort to share a generalize a huge page for
> > > > these things is also another reason for some of this but that is more
> > > > long term.
> > > >
> > > > I'm all for minor changes here so to avoid regressions but it seems a
> > > > rename is in order -- if we're going to all this might as well do it
> > > > now. And for that I'd just like to ask you paint the bikeshed with
> > > > Song Liu as he's been the one slowly making way to help us get there
> > > > with the "module: replace module_layout with module_memory",
> > > > and Mike Rapoport as he's had some follow up attempts [0]. As I see it,
> > > > the EXECMEM stuff would be what we use instead then. Mike kept the
> > > > module_alloc() and the execmem was just a wrapper but your move of the
> > > > arch stuff makes sense as well and I think would complement his series
> > > > nicely.
> > >
> > > I apologize for missing that. I think these are the four most recent
> > > versions of the different series referenced from that LWN link:
> > >
> > >   a) https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230918072955.2507221-1-rppt@kernelorg/
> > >   b) https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230526051529.3387103-1-song@kernelorg/
> > >   c) https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221107223921.3451913-1-song@kernelorg/
> > >   d) https://lore.kernel.org/all/20201120202426.18009-1-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com/
> > >
> > > Song and Mike, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what I've
> > > done here (see [1], sorry for not adding you initially) is compatible
> > > with everything both of you have recently proposed above. How do you
> > > feel about this as a first step?
> >
> > I agree that the work here is compatible with other efforts. I have no
> > objection to making this the first step.
> >
> > >
> > > For naming, execmem_alloc() seems reasonable to me? I have no strong
> > > feelings at all, I'll just use that going forward unless somebody else
> > > expresses an opinion.
> >
> > I am not good at naming things. No objection from me to "execmem_alloc".
>
> Hm, it sounds good to me too. I think we should add a patch which just
> rename the module_alloc/module_memfree with execmem_alloc/free first.

I think that would be cleaner, yes. Leaving the possible move to a
secondary patch and placing the testing more on the later part.

 Luis

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