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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:51:34 -0700
From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
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Subject: Re: Unexplained long boot delays [Was Re: [GIT PULL] RCU changes for
 v6.9]

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 11:35:23AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 3/14/24 03:41, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 08:44:07PM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 3/13/2024 3:52 PM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 03:04:26PM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> > > > > On 3/13/24 14:59, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 02:30:43PM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> > > > > > > I will try to provide multiple answers for the sake of everyone having the
> > > > > > > same context. Responding to Linus' specifically and his suggestion to use
> > > > > > > "initcall_debug", this is what it gave me:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [    6.970669] ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
> > > > > > > [  166.136366] probe of unimac-mdio-0:01 returned 0 after 159216218 usecs
> > > > > > > [  166.142931] unimac-mdio unimac-mdio.0: Broadcom UniMAC MDIO bus
> > > > > > > [  166.148900] probe of unimac-mdio.0 returned 0 after 159243553 usecs
> > > > > > > [  166.155820] probe of f0480000.ethernet returned 0 after 159258794 usecs
> > > > > > > [  166.166427] ehci-brcm f0b00300.ehci_v2: EHCI Host Controller
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Also got another occurrence happening resuming from suspend to DRAM with:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [   22.570667] brcmstb-dpfe 9932000.dpfe-cpu: PM: calling
> > > > > > > platform_pm_resume+0x0/0x54 @ 1574, parent: rdb
> > > > > > > [  181.643809] brcmstb-dpfe 9932000.dpfe-cpu: PM:
> > > > > > > platform_pm_resume+0x0/0x54 returned 0 after 159073134 usecs
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and also with the PCIe root complex driver:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [   18.266279] brcm-pcie f0460000.pcie: PM: calling
> > > > > > > brcm_pcie_resume_noirq+0x0/0x164 @ 1597, parent: platform
> > > > > > > [  177.457219] brcm-pcie f0460000.pcie: clkreq-mode set to default
> > > > > > > [  177.457225] brcm-pcie f0460000.pcie: link up, 2.5 GT/s PCIe x1 (!SSC)
> > > > > > > [  177.457231] brcm-pcie f0460000.pcie: PM: brcm_pcie_resume_noirq+0x0/0x164
> > > > > > > returned 0 after 159190939 usecs
> > > > > > > [  177.457257] pcieport 0000:00:00.0: PM: calling
> > > > > > > pci_pm_resume_noirq+0x0/0x160 @ 33, parent: pci0000:00
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Surprisingly those drivers are consistently reproducing the failures I am
> > > > > > > seeing so at least this gave me a clue as to where the problem is.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There were no changes to drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/genet/, the two
> > > > > > > changes done to drivers/net/mdio/mdio-bcm-unimac.c are correct, especially
> > > > > > > the read_poll_timeout() conversion is correct, we properly break out of the
> > > > > > > loop. The initial delay looked like a good culprit for a little while, but
> > > > > > > it is not used on the affected platforms because instead we provide a
> > > > > > > callback and we have an interrupt to signal the completion of a MDIO
> > > > > > > operation, therefore unimac_mdio_poll() is not used at all. Finally
> > > > > > > drivers/memory/brcmstb_dpfe.c also received a single change which is not
> > > > > > > functional here (.remove function change do return void).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I went back to a manual bisection and this time I believe that I have a more
> > > > > > > plausible candidate with:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 7ee988770326fca440472200c3eb58935fe712f6 ("timers: Implement the
> > > > > > > hierarchical pull model")
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I haven't understood the code there yet, and how it would interact with
> > > > > > arch code, but one thing that immediately jumps out to me is this:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "    As long as a CPU is busy it expires both local and global timers. When a
> > > > > >        CPU goes idle it arms for the first expiring local timer."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So are local timers "armed" when they are enqueued while the cpu is
> > > > > > "busy" during initialisation, and will they expire, and will that
> > > > > > expiry be delivered in a timely manner?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If not, this commit is basically broken, and would be the cause of the
> > > > > > issue you are seeing. For the mdio case, we're talking about 2ms
> > > > > > polling. For the dpfe case, it looks like we're talking about 1ms
> > > > > > sleeps. I'm guessing that these end up being local timers.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Looking at pcie-brcmstb, there's a 100ms msleep(), and then a polling
> > > > > > for link up every 5ms - if the link was down and we msleep(5) I wonder
> > > > > > if that's triggering the same issue.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why that would manifest itself on 32-bit but not 64-bit Arm, I can't
> > > > > > say. I would imagine that the same hardware timer driver is being used
> > > > > > (may be worth checking DT.) The same should be true for the interrupt
> > > > > > driver as well. There's been no changes in that code.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just had it happen with ARM64 I was plagued by:
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87wmqrjg8n.fsf@somnus/T/
> > > > > 
> > > > > and my earlier bisections somehow did not have ARM64 fail, so I thought it
> > > > > was immune but it fails with about the same failure rate as ARM 32-bit.
> > > > 
> > > > Can you please boot with:
> > > > 
> > > >       trace_event=timer_migration,timer_start,timer_expire_entry,timer_cancel
> > > > 
> > > > And add the following and give us the resulting output in dmesg?
> > > 
> > > Here are two logs from two different systems that exposed the problem on
> > > boot:
> > > 
> > > https://gist.github.com/ffainelli/f0834c52ef6320c9216d879ca29a4b81
> > > https://gist.github.com/ffainelli/dc838883edb925a77d8eb34c0fe95be0
> > 
> > Thanks! Unfortunately like Thomas pointed out, I'm missing the timer_migration
> > events. My fault, can you retry with this syntax?
> > 
> > 	trace_event=timer_migration:*,timer_start,timer_expire_entry,timer_cancel
> > 
> > Though it's fairly possible that timer migration is not enabled at this point
> > as it's a late initcall. But we better not miss its traces otherwise.
> 
> Here is another log with timer_migration:
> 
> https://gist.github.com/ffainelli/237a5f9928850d6d8900d1f36da45aee

FWIW, the trace point is still not enabled:

[    0.000000] Failed to enable trace event: timer_migration:*

you need this commit in master:

	36e40df35d2c "timer_migration: Add tracepoints"

, which is one commit later than 7ee988770326 AFAICT

Regards,
Boqun

> -- 
> Florian
> 

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