linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2] Revert "mm: skip CMA pages when they are not available"

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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 12:27:16 +0000
From: 刘海龙(LaoLiu) <liuhailong@...o.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Revert "mm: skip CMA pages when they are not
 available"

On 2024/3/19 19:09, Barry Song wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 4:56 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri 15-03-24 16:18:03, liuhailong@...o.com wrote:
>>> From: "Hailong.Liu" <liuhailong@...o.com>
>>>
>>> This reverts
>>> commit b7108d66318a ("Multi-gen LRU: skip CMA pages when they are not eligible")
>>> commit 5da226dbfce3 ("mm: skip CMA pages when they are not available")
>>>
>>> skip_cma may cause system not responding. if cma pages is large in lru_list
>>> and system is in lowmemory, many tasks would direct reclaim and waste
>>> cpu time to isolate_lru_pages and return.
>>>
>>> Test this patch on android-5.15 8G device
>>> reproducer:
>>> - cma_declare_contiguous 3G pages
>>> - set /proc/sys/vm/swappiness 0 to enable direct_reclaim reclaim file
>>>   only.
>>> - run a memleak process in userspace
>>
>> Does this represent a sane configuration? CMA memory is unusable for
>> kernel allocations and memleak process is also hard to reclaim due to
>> swap suppression. Isn't such a system doomed to struggle to reclaim any
>> memory? 
Yes, All processes in the system are also hard to reclaim. and all processes
enter direct reclaim. with this patch, much of process which should skip_cma
would retry, scan, skipped in the process of isolsate_lru_pages. and system 
process will have high priority, some normal processes (like kswapd) are 
preempted. 


Btw. how does the same setup behave with the regular LRU
>> implementation? My guess would be that it would struggle as well.
> 
> I assume the regular LRU implementation you are talking about is the LRU
> without skip_cma()?
> 
> I remember Hailong mentioned something like " it also trigger memory psi
> event to allow admin do something to release memory" and " without
> patch the devices would kill camera process".  So it seems the difference
> is if a killing will occur.
> 
> Hailong, would you like to provide more detail?

psi_event triggered after psi_memstall_leave. much system processes 
perform_reclaim scan and skipped and leave without reclaim any pages. 
the process is fast, so lmkd (userspace lowmemory killer) could not work
as before.

> 
>> --
>> Michal Hocko
>> SUSE Labs
>>