linux-kernel - Re: [WIP 0/3] Memory model and atomic API in Rust

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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:50:48 -0400
From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev>
To: comex <comexk@...il.com>
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Subject: Re: [WIP 0/3] Memory model and atomic API in Rust

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 09:16:09AM -0700, comex wrote:
> Meanwhile, Rust intentionally lacks strict aliasing.

I wasn't aware of this. Given that unrestricted pointers are a real
impediment to compiler optimization, I thought that with Rust we were
finally starting to nail down a concrete enough memory model to tackle
this safely. But I guess not?