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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:38:10 +0100
From: Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@...ux.intel.com>
To: Easwar Hariharan <eahariha@...ux.microsoft.com>
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	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v0 02/14] drm/amdgpu,drm/radeon: Make I2C terminology
 more inclusive

Hi,

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:28:14AM -0700, Easwar Hariharan wrote:
> On 3/29/2024 10:16 AM, Andi Shyti wrote:
> > Hi Easwar,
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 05:00:26PM +0000, Easwar Hariharan wrote:
> >> I2C v7, SMBus 3.2, and I3C specifications have replaced "master/slave"
> > 
> > I don't understand why we forget that i3c is 1.1.1 :-)
> 
> That's because it's a copy-paste error from Wolfram's cover letter. :) I'll update
> next go-around.

not a binding comment, though. Just for completeness, because we
are giving the version to the i2c and smbus, but not i3c.

> >> with more appropriate terms. Inspired by and following on to Wolfram's
> >> series to fix drivers/i2c/[1], fix the terminology for users of
> >> I2C_ALGOBIT bitbanging interface, now that the approved verbiage exists
> >> in the specification.
> > 
> > The specification talks about:
> > 
> >  - master -> controller
> >  - slave -> target (and not client)
> > 
> > But both you and Wolfram have used client. I'd like to reach
> > some more consistency here.
> 
> I had the impression that remote targets (i.e external to the device) were to be called clients,
> e.g. the QSFP FRUs in drivers/infiniband, and internal ones targets.
> I chose the terminology according to that understanding, but now I can't find where I got that
> information.

The word "client" does not even appear in the documentation (only
one instance in the i3c document), so that the change is not
related to the document as stated in the commit log. Unless, of
course, I am missing something.

I'm OK with choosing a "customized" naming, but we need to reach
an agreement.

I raised the same question to Wolfram.

Thanks,
Andi

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