linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 09/15] RISC-V: KVM: Add perf sampling support for guests

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Message-ID: <388ef032-7030-47b5-bba5-852b00de7382@rivosinc.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:11:31 -0700
From: Atish Patra <atishp@...osinc.com>
To: Andrew Jones <ajones@...tanamicro.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>,
 Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>, Alexandre Ghiti <alexghiti@...osinc.com>,
 Atish Patra <atishp@...shpatra.org>,
 Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@...rochip.com>, Guo Ren <guoren@...nel.org>,
 Icenowy Zheng <uwu@...nowy.me>, kvm-riscv@...ts.infradead.org,
 kvm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
 Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...belt.com>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
 Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>,
 Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/15] RISC-V: KVM: Add perf sampling support for
 guests

On 4/5/24 05:05, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 01:33:10AM -0700, Atish Patra wrote:
> ...
>>> but it should be possible for the VMM to disable this extension in the
>>> guest. We just need to change all the checks in KVM of the host's ISA
>>> for RISCV_ISA_EXT_SSCOFPMF to checking the guest's ISA instead. Maybe
>>> it's not worth it, though, if the guest PMU isn't useful without overflow.
>>> But, sometimes it's nice to be able to disable stuff for debug and
>>> workarounds.
>>>
>>
>> As per my understanding, kvm_riscv_vcpu_isa_disable_allowed only returns
>> true for those extensions which can be disabled architecturally.
> 
> I think kvm_riscv_vcpu_isa_disable_allowed can return true for any
> extensions that KVM can guarantee won't be exposed in any way to the
> guest. Extensions that cannot be disabled architecturally must return
> false, since their instructions will still be present in the guest, even
> if KVM doesn't want to expose them, but extensions which KVM emulates
> can return true because KVM can choose not to emulate them. IIUC, sscofpmf
> falls in this latter category.
> 

hmm. The Sscofpmf is dependent on interrupt filtering via hvien and SBI 
PMU. So you are suggesting to toggle off the CSR_HVIEN bit for overflow 
interrupt or do more granular disabling for privilege mode filtering in 
SBI PMU as well.

Beyond that we can't disable SBI PMU. Is that okay ? A guest can still 
cause counter overflow and interrupt the host. However, the guest won't 
get any interrupt as hvien is not set.

It can also still filter the events as that is tied with SBI PMU.

We can put more granular checks in SBI pmu but I am just wondering if it 
provides anything additional beyond just disabling the sscofpmf in 
device tree.


>>
>> VMM can still disable any extension by not adding to the device tree.
>> In fact, that's how kvmtool can disable sstc or sscofpmf with
>> --disable-<isa-ext command>.
>>
>> The warning is bit confused though.
>>
>> For example: if you run kvmtool with --disable-sstc
>>
>> "Warning: Failed to disable sstc ISA exension"
> 
> I think Sstc should allow disabling since it has a corresponding henvcfg
> bit which KVM could not set in order to force accesses to the Sstc CSRs
> to raise ILL exceptions. So, let's put Sstc aside, since it's not a good

Agreed. I will send a separate patch for that.

> example. An extension like Zihintpause, OTOH, cannot be disabled since
> the 'pause' instruction will be present even if KVM does not put
> Zihintpause in the guest's ISA string. If a kvmtool user uses
> --disable-zihintpause, then I think this warning about failing to disable
> the extension is appropriate.
> 
>>
>> But sstc is disabled: Here is the cpuinfo output.
>> # cat /proc/cpuinfo
>> processor       : 0
>> hart            : 0
>> isa             : rv64imafdc_zicbom_zicboz_zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihintntl_zihintpause_zihpm_zfa_zba_zbb_zbc_zbs_smstateen_sscofpmf
>> mmu             : sv57
>> mvendorid       : 0x0
>> marchid         : 0x0
>> mimpid          : 0x0
>> hart isa        : rv64imafdc_zicbom_zicboz_zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihintntl_zihintpause_zihpm_zfa_zba_zbb_zbc_zbs_smstateen_sscofpmf
> 
> Removing from the ISA string is the best we can do in cases like
> Zihintpause, and is likely good enough for well-behaved guests, but the
> VMM's warning to the user is good for these cases too, since not all
> guests are well-behaved.
> 
> Thanks,
> drew