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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:46:50 -0700
From: Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>
To: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>
Cc: "seanjc@...gle.com" <seanjc@...gle.com>,
	"Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>,
	"davidskidmore@...gle.com" <davidskidmore@...gle.com>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>,
	"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@...el.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"srutherford@...gle.com" <srutherford@...gle.com>,
	"kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"pankaj.gupta@....com" <pankaj.gupta@....com>,
	"Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@...el.com>,
	"isaku.yamahata@...ux.intel.com" <isaku.yamahata@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] PUCK Notes - 2024.04.03 - TDX Upstreaming Strategy

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 06:03:52PM -0700,
Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...el.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 02:03:26PM +0000,
> "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 18:12 -0700, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 06:51:40PM +0000,
> > > Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2024, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2024-04-08 at 09:20 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > > > > Another option is that, KVM doesn't allow userspace to configure
> > > > > > > CPUID(0x8000_0008).EAX[7:0]. Instead, it provides a gpaw field in struct
> > > > > > > kvm_tdx_init_vm for userspace to configure directly.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What do you prefer?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hmm, neither.  I think the best approach is to build on Gerd's series to have KVM
> > > > > > select 4-level vs. 5-level based on the enumerated guest.MAXPHYADDR, not on
> > > > > > host.MAXPHYADDR.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So then GPAW would be coded to basically best fit the supported guest.MAXPHYADDR within KVM. QEMU
> > > > > could look at the supported guest.MAXPHYADDR and use matching logic to determine GPAW.
> > > > 
> > > > Off topic, any chance I can bribe/convince you to wrap your email replies closer
> > > > to 80 chars, not 100?  Yeah, checkpath no longer complains when code exceeds 80
> > > > chars, but my brain is so well trained for 80 that it actually slows me down a
> > > > bit when reading mails that are wrapped at 100 chars.
> > > > 
> > > > > Or are you suggesting that KVM should look at the value of CPUID(0X8000_0008).eax[23:16] passed from
> > > > > userspace?
> > > > 
> > > > This.  Note, my pseudo-patch incorrectly looked at bits 15:8, that was just me
> > > > trying to go off memory.
> > > > 
> > > > > I'm not following the code examples involving struct kvm_vcpu. Since TDX
> > > > > configures these at a VM level, there isn't a vcpu.
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, I take it GPAW is a VM-scope knob?  I forget where we ended up with the ordering
> > > > of TDX commands vs. creating vCPUs.  Does KVM allow creating vCPU structures in
> > > > advance of the TDX INIT call?  If so, the least awful solution might be to use
> > > > vCPU0's CPUID.
> > > 
> > > The current order is, KVM vm creation (KVM_CREATE_VM),
> > > KVM vcpu creation(KVM_CREATE_VCPU), TDX VM initialization (KVM_TDX_INIT_VM).
> > > and TDX VCPU initialization(KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU).
> > > We can call KVM_SET_CPUID2 before KVM_TDX_INIT_VM.  We can remove cpuid part
> > > from struct kvm_tdx_init_vm by vcpu0 cpuid.
> > 
> > What's the reason to call KVM_TDX_INIT_VM after KVM_CREATE_VCPU?
> 
> The KVM_TDX_INIT_VM (it requires cpuids) doesn't requires any order between two,
> KVM_TDX_INIT_VM and KVM_CREATE_VCPU.  We can call KVM_TDX_INIT_VM before or
> after KVM_CREATE_VCPU because there is no limitation between two.
> 
> The v5 TDX QEMU happens to call KVM_CREATE_VCPU and then KVM_TDX_INIT_VM
> because it creates CPUIDs for KVM_TDX_INIT_VM from qemu vCPU structures after
> KVM_GET_CPUID2.  Which is after KVM_CREATE_VCPU.

Sorry, let me correct it. QEMU creates QEMU's vCPU struct with its CPUIDs.
KVM_TDX_INIT_VM, KVM_CREATE_VCPU, and KVM_SET_CPUID2.  QEMU passes CPUIDs as is
to KVM_SET_CPUID2.

The v19 KVM_TDX_INIT_VM checks if the KVM vCPU is not created yet.  But it's can
be relaxed.
-- 
Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>