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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:43:54 +0300
From: Jan Dakinevich <jan.dakinevich@...utedevices.com>
To: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@...libre.com>
CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>, Neil
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] dt-bindings: clock: meson: document A1 SoC
 audio clock controller driver



On 4/22/24 17:31, Jan Dakinevich wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/22/24 10:57, Jerome Brunet wrote:
>>
>> On Mon 22 Apr 2024 at 09:16, Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@...libre.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 21 Apr 2024 at 20:14, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/04/2024 18:15, Jan Dakinevich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/20/24 00:09, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 03:58:10PM +0300, Jan Dakinevich wrote:
>>>>>>> Add device tree bindings for A1 SoC audio clock and reset controllers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Dakinevich <jan.dakinevich@...utedevices.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This controller has 6 mandatory and up to 20 optional clocks. To describe
>>>>>>> this, I use 'additionalItems'. It produces correct processed-schema.json:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   "clock-names": {
>>>>>>>       "maxItems": 26,
>>>>>>>       "items": [
>>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>>               "const": "pclk"
>>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>>               "const": "dds_in"
>>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>>               "const": "fclk_div2"
>>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>>               "const": "fclk_div3"
>>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>>               "const": "hifi_pll"
>>>>>>>           },
>>>>>>>           {
>>>>>>>               "const": "xtal"
>>>>>>>           }
>>>>>>>       ],
>>>>>>>       "additionalItems": {
>>>>>>>           "oneOf": [
>>>>>>>               {
>>>>>>>                   "pattern": "^slv_sclk[0-9]$"
>>>>>>>               },
>>>>>>>               {
>>>>>>>                   "pattern": "^slv_lrclk[0-9]$"
>>>>>>>               }
>>>>>>>           ]
>>>>>>>       },
>>>>>>>       "type": "array",
>>>>>>>       "minItems": 6
>>>>>>>   },
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it behaves as expected. However, the checking is followed by
>>>>>>> complaints like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/clock/amlogic,a1-audio-clkc.yaml: properties:clock-names:additionalItems: {'oneOf': [{'pattern': '^slv_sclk[0-9]$'}, {'pattern': '^slv_lrclk[0-9]$'}]} is not of type 'boolean'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And indeed, 'additionalItems' has boolean type in meta-schema. So, how to
>>>>>>> do it right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The meta-schemas are written both to prevent nonsense that json-schema 
>>>>>> allows by default (e.g additionalitems (wrong case)) and constraints to 
>>>>>> follow the patterns we expect. I'm happy to loosen the latter case if 
>>>>>> there's really a need. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Generally, most bindings shouldn't be using 'additionalItems' at all as 
>>>>>> all entries should be defined, but there's a few exceptions. Here, the 
>>>>>> only reasoning I see is 26 entries is a lot to write out, but that 
>>>>>> wouldn't really justify it. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Writing a lot of entries don't scary me too much, but the reason is that
>>>>> the existence of optional clock sources depends on schematics. Also, we
>>>>
>>>> Aren't you documenting SoC component, not a board? So how exactly it
>>>> depends on schematics? SoC is done or not done...
>>>>
>>>>> unable to declare dt-nodes for 'clocks' array in any generic way,
>>>>> because their declaration would depends on that what is actually
>>>>> connected to the SoC (dt-node could be "fixed-clock" with specific rate
>>>>> or something else).
>>>>
>>>> So these are clock inputs to the SoC?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, possibly.
>>> Like an external crystal or a set clocks provided by an external codec
>>> where the codec is the clock master of the link.
>>>
>>> This is same case as the AXG that was discussed here:
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20230808194811.113087-1-alexander.stein@mailbox.org/
>>>
>>> IMO, like the AXG, only the pclk is a required clock.
>>> All the others - master and slave clocks - are optional.
>>> The controller is designed to operate with grounded inputs
>>
>> Looking again at the implementation of the controller, there is a clear
>> indication in patch 3 that the controller interface is the same as the
>> AXG and that the above statement is true.
>>> The AXG had 8 master clocks wired in. The A1 just has 5 - and 3 grounded
>> master clocks. This is why you to had to provide a mux input table to
>> skip the grounded inputs. You would not have to do so if the controller was
>> properly declared with the 8 master clock input, as it actually is.
>>
> 
> For simplicity, I could make something like this in device tree:
> 
> clocks = <&clk0,
>           &clk1,
>           &clk2,
>           &clk3,
>           &clk4,
>           0,
>           0,
>           0>
> clock-names = <"mst_in0",
>                "mst_in1",
>                "mst_in2"
>                "mst_in2"
>                "mst_in3"
>                "mst_in4"
>                "mst_in5"
>                "mst_in6"
>                "mst_in7">
> 
> But I don't see in the doc that the last 3 clocks are grounded to
> anywhere. It will be just community's assumption about internals of the
> controller.
> 
> Anyway, I still don't understand what to do with external slv_* clocks.
> I can do the same as in example above: list slv_(s|lr)clk[0-9] in
> "clock-names" and fill the rest if "clocks" by "0" phandles.
> 

Sorry, I missed that you suggested similar thing:

>>> I think the simpliest way to deal with this to just list all the clocks
>>> with 'minItems = 1'. It is going be hard to read with a lot of '<0>,' in
>>> the DTS when do need those slave clocks but at least the binding doc
>>> will be simple.

But, may be it could be better to claim that all clocks are mandatory
and list all of them (including slv_*)? So, 'minItems = 1' can be
omitted. What do you think?

clocks = <&pclk,
          &clk0,
          &clk1,
          &clk2,
          &clk3,
          &clk4,
          0,
          0,
          0,
          0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
          0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0>;
clock-names = <"pclk",
               "mst_in0",
               "mst_in1",
               "mst_in2"
               "mst_in2"
               "mst_in3"
               "mst_in4"
               "mst_in5"
               "mst_in6"
               "mst_in7",
               "slv_sclk0",
               "slv_sclk1",
               "slv_sclk2",
               "slv_sclk3",
               "slv_sclk4",
               "slv_sclk5",
               "slv_sclk6",
               "slv_sclk7",
               "slv_sclk8",
               "slv_sclk9",
               "slv_lrclk0",
               "slv_lrclk1",
               "slv_lrclk2",
               "slv_lrclk3",
               "slv_lrclk4",
               "slv_lrclk5",
               "slv_lrclk6",
               "slv_lrclk7",
               "slv_lrclk8",
               "slv_lrclk9">;

>> It also shows that it is a bad idea to name input after what is coming
>> in (like you do with "dds_in" or "fclk_div2") instead of what they
>> actually are like in the AXG (mst0, mst1, etc ...)
>>
> 
> I agree, these are not the best names.
> 
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I don't know any example (neither for A1 SoC nor for other
>>>>> Amlogic's SoCs) where these optional clocks are used, but they are
>>>>> allowed by hw.
>>>
>>> Those scenario exists and have been tested. There is just no dts using
>>> that upstream because they are all mostly copy of the AML ref design.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is my understanding of this controller. I hope, Jerome Brunet will
>>>>> clarify how it actually works.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the simpliest way to deal with this to just list all the clocks
>>> with 'minItems = 1'. It is going be hard to read with a lot of '<0>,' in
>>> the DTS when do need those slave clocks but at least the binding doc
>>> will be simple.
>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Krzysztof
>>>
>>> If you are going ahead with this, please name the file
>>> amlogic,axg-audio-clkc.yaml because this is really the first controller
>>> of the type and is meant to be documented in the same file.
>>>
>>> You are free to handle the conversion of the AXG at the same time if
>>> you'd like. It would be much appreciated if you do.
>>
>>
> 

-- 
Best regards
Jan Dakinevich

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