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Message-ID: <8c55dba5-6308-685e-13da-e728197d8101@quicinc.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:59:22 -0600
From: Jeffrey Hugo <quic_jhugo@...cinc.com>
To: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@...euvizoso.net>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
CC: Oded Gabbay <ogabbay@...nel.org>, Lucas Stach <l.stach@...gutronix.de>,
Russell King <linux+etnaviv@...linux.org.uk>,
Christian Gmeiner
<christian.gmeiner@...il.com>,
David Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, Daniel
Vetter <daniel@...ll.ch>,
<etnaviv@...ts.freedesktop.org>, <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/etnaviv: Create an accel device node if compute-only
On 4/24/2024 12:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
> rendering, which of course won't work.
>
> Userspace is probably right in not questioning whether a render node
> might not be capable of supporting rendering, so change it in the kernel
> instead by exposing a /dev/accel node.
>
> Before we bring the device up we don't know whether it is capable of
> rendering or not (depends on the features of its blocks), so first try
> to probe a rendering node, and if we find out that there is no rendering
> hardware, abort and retry with an accel node.
>
> Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@...euvizoso.net>
> Cc: Oded Gabbay <ogabbay@...nel.org>
I hope Oded chimes in as Accel maintainer. I think Airlie/Vetter had
also previously mentioned they'd have opinions on what is Accel vs DRM.
This gets a nack from me in its current state. This is not a strong
nack, and I don't want to discourage you. I think there is a path forward.
The Accel subsystem documentation says that accel drivers will reside in
drivers/accel/ but this does not.
Also, the commit text for "accel: add dedicated minor for accelerator
devices" mentions -
"for drivers that
declare they handle compute accelerator, using a new driver feature
flag called DRIVER_COMPUTE_ACCEL. It is important to note that this
driver feature is mutually exclusive with DRIVER_RENDER. Devices that
want to expose both graphics and compute device char files should be
handled by two drivers that are connected using the auxiliary bus
framework."
I don't see any of that happening here (two drivers connected by aux
bus, one in drivers/accel).
I think this is the first case we've had of a combo DRM/Accel usecase,
and so there isn't an existing example to refer you to on how to
structure things. I think you are going to be the first example where
we figure all of this out.
On a more implementation note, ioctls for Accel devices should not be
marked DRM_RENDER_ALLOW. Seems like your attempt to reuse as much of
the code as possible trips over this.
-Jeff
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