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Message-ID: <ae15114f-24d3-499b-9c99-ae7e098badd9@suse.cz>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 22:22:52 +0200
From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
To: Nicolas Bouchinet <nicolas.bouchinet@...p-os.org>,
 Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@...ux.dev>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Cc: cl@...ux.com, penberg@...nel.org, rientjes@...gle.com,
 iamjoonsoo.kim@....com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, roman.gushchin@...ux.dev,
 42.hyeyoo@...il.com, Xiongwei Song <xiongwei.song@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slub: Fixes freepointer encoding for single free

On 4/29/24 6:16 PM, Nicolas Bouchinet wrote:
> On 4/29/24 16:52, Chengming Zhou wrote:
>> On 2024/4/29 22:32, Nicolas Bouchinet wrote:
>>> On 4/29/24 15:35, Chengming Zhou wrote:
>>>> On 2024/4/29 20:59, Nicolas Bouchinet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I help maintaining the Linux-Hardened patchset in which we have a slab object canary feature that helps detecting overflows. It is located just after the object freepointer.
>>>>> I've tried a patch where the freepointer is avoided but it results in the same bug. It seems that the commit 0f181f9fbea8bc7ea ("mm/slub.c: init_on_free=1 should wipe freelist ptr for bulk allocations") inits the freepointer on allocation if init_on_free is set in order to return a clean initialized object to the caller.
>>>>>
>>>> Good catch! You may need to change maybe_wipe_obj_freeptr() too,
>>>> I haven't tested this, not sure whether it works for you. :)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/slub.c b/mm/slub.c
>>>> index 3e33ff900d35..3f250a167cb5 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/slub.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/slub.c
>>>> @@ -3796,7 +3796,8 @@ static void *__slab_alloc_node(struct kmem_cache *s,
>>>>    static __always_inline void maybe_wipe_obj_freeptr(struct kmem_cache *s,
>>>>                                                      void *obj)
>>>>    {
>>>> -       if (unlikely(slab_want_init_on_free(s)) && obj)
>>>> +       if (unlikely(slab_want_init_on_free(s)) && obj &&
>>>> +           !freeptr_outside_object(s))
>>>>                   memset((void *)((char *)kasan_reset_tag(obj) + s->offset),
>>>>                           0, sizeof(void *));
>>>>    }
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>> Indeed since check_object() avoids objects for which freepointer is in the object and since val is equal to SLUB_RED_ACTIVE in our specific case it should work. Do you want me to add you as Co-authored ?
>>>
>> Ok, it's great. Thanks!
> 
> Now I think of it, doesn't it seems a bit odd to only properly 
> init_on_free object's freepointer only if it's inside the object ? IMHO 
> it is equally necessary to avoid information leaking about the 
> freepointer whether it is inside or outside the object.
> I think it break the semantic of the commit 0f181f9fbea8bc7ea 
> ("mm/slub.c: init_on_free=1 should wipe freelist ptr for bulk 
> allocations") ?

Hm, AFAIU, wiping inside object prevents misuse of some buggy kernel code
that would allocate and accidentally leak prior content (including the
in-object freepointer) somewhere the attacker can read. Now for wiping the
freepointer outside the object to be useful it would have assume said
leak-prone code to additionally be reading past the allocated object size,
i.e. a read buffer overflow. That to me seems to be a much more rare
combination, and also in that case such code could also likely read even
further past the object, i.e. leak the next object's data? IOW I don't think
it buys us much additional security protection in practice?

> Thanks.
> 


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