linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] random: add chacha8_block and swtich the rng to it

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Message-ID: <ZjJLWy4Y5Y__JCUF@hercules>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 08:02:03 -0600
From: Aaron Toponce <aaron.toponce@...il.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@...il.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: add chacha8_block and swtich the rng to it

On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:38:52PM +0200, Jean-Philippe Aumasson wrote:
> Switching from ChaCha20 to ChaCha12 might still raise eyebrows but I
> dont think any respectable crypto/security expert will suspect a
> JiaTan situation.

I also mentioned this earlier in the thread; that is, to switch to ChaCha12 if
ChaCha8 makes us uncomfortable. It's not without precedent also:

- eSTREAM recommends Salsa20/12 in their final portfolio
- Adiantum uses XChaCha12 
- Rust uses ChaCha12 rand::rngs::StdRng

There may be other precedent of ChaCha12 with from non-trivial projects I'm
unfamiliar with.

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