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Message-ID: <2654ad6e-66b7-4698-94da-892cc9d0802c@linux.microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 13:12:00 -0700
From: Easwar Hariharan <eahariha@...ux.microsoft.com>
To: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@...il.com>
Cc: Christian König <christian.koenig@....com>,
 David Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@...ll.ch>,
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 open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/12] drm/amdgpu, drm/radeon: Make I2C terminology
 more inclusive

On 5/8/2024 7:53 AM, Alex Deucher wrote:
> On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 2:32 PM Easwar Hariharan
> <eahariha@...ux.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/3/2024 11:13 AM, Easwar Hariharan wrote:
>>> I2C v7, SMBus 3.2, and I3C 1.1.1 specifications have replaced "master/slave"
>>> with more appropriate terms. Inspired by and following on to Wolfram's
>>> series to fix drivers/i2c/[1], fix the terminology for users of
>>> I2C_ALGOBIT bitbanging interface, now that the approved verbiage exists
>>> in the specification.
>>>
>>> Compile tested, no functionality changes intended
>>>
>>> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240322132619.6389-1-wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com/
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Easwar Hariharan <eahariha@...ux.microsoft.com>
>>> ---
>>>  .../gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_atomfirmware.c  |  8 +++---
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_i2c.c       | 10 +++----
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/atombios_i2c.c     |  8 +++---
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/atombios_i2c.h     |  2 +-
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/smu_v11_0_i2c.c    | 20 ++++++-------
>>>  .../gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/bios/bios_parser.c |  2 +-
>>>  .../drm/amd/display/dc/bios/bios_parser2.c    |  2 +-
>>>  .../drm/amd/display/dc/core/dc_link_exports.c |  4 +--
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dc.h           |  2 +-
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dce/dce_i2c.c  |  4 +--
>>>  .../display/include/grph_object_ctrl_defs.h   |  2 +-
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/include/atombios.h        |  2 +-
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/include/atomfirmware.h    | 26 ++++++++---------
>>>  .../powerplay/hwmgr/vega20_processpptables.c  |  4 +--
>>>  .../amd/pm/powerplay/inc/smu11_driver_if.h    |  2 +-
>>>  .../inc/pmfw_if/smu11_driver_if_arcturus.h    |  2 +-
>>>  .../inc/pmfw_if/smu11_driver_if_navi10.h      |  2 +-
>>>  .../pmfw_if/smu11_driver_if_sienna_cichlid.h  |  2 +-
>>>  .../inc/pmfw_if/smu13_driver_if_aldebaran.h   |  2 +-
>>>  .../inc/pmfw_if/smu13_driver_if_v13_0_0.h     |  2 +-
>>>  .../inc/pmfw_if/smu13_driver_if_v13_0_7.h     |  2 +-
>>>  .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/arcturus_ppt.c |  4 +--
>>>  .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c   |  8 +++---
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/atombios.h             | 16 +++++------
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/atombios_i2c.c         |  4 +--
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_combios.c       | 28 +++++++++----------
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_i2c.c           | 10 +++----
>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_mode.h          |  6 ++--
>>>  28 files changed, 93 insertions(+), 93 deletions(-)
>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Hello Christian, Daniel, David, others,
>>
>> Could you re-review v2 since the feedback provided in v0 [1] has now been addressed? I can send v3 with
>> all other feedback and signoffs from the other maintainers incorporated when I have something for amdgpu
>> and radeon.
> 
> This seems like a lot of churn.  Additionally, a bunch of these
> headers are shared with other OSes, so it's possible some of the
> changes may end up getting reverted accidently when we sync up or we
> may add new headers in new code with the old nomenclature and then
> we'd need to make sure to adjust it to make sure everything was
> aligned again.  I would just as soon leave things as is, but I'm open
> to acking them if there is a strong desire to update things.
> 
> Alex

The way I see it, this is a small downpayment on the debt we have built up so far. Internship
programs like LF Outreachy to get more underrepresented groups involved in open source are trying to 
change the open source community culture to be more inclusive, but simultaneously rely on the culture
being welcoming enough as well.

I do see the challenge involved in preserving the changes and ensuring no new code is added with
outdated nomenclature (but see [1]), but culture changes one person at a time, and I'd encourage the community
to do the work needed so we can move past our (mostly) inadvertent role in perpetuating it.

That's my 2c (or your sub-unit currency of choice).

Easwar

[1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=49decddd39e5f6132ccd7d9fdc3d7c470b0061bb

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