linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5] platform/x86: dell-laptop: Implement platform

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Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 17:14:40 -0500
From: "Limonciello, Mario" <mario.limonciello@....com>
To: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@....de>, "Shen, Yijun" <Yijun.Shen@...l.com>,
 Lyndon Sanche <lsanche@...deno.ca>
Cc: "pali@...nel.org" <pali@...nel.org>,
 "srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com" <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
 "ilpo.jarvinen@...ux.intel.com" <ilpo.jarvinen@...ux.intel.com>,
 "lkp@...el.com" <lkp@...el.com>, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>,
 Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
 Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
 Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@...cle.com>,
 "platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org" <platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org>,
 "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
 Dell Client Kernel <Dell.Client.Kernel@...l.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] platform/x86: dell-laptop: Implement platform_profile

On 5/12/2024 1:47 PM, Armin Wolf wrote:
>> Why?  Windows also does ACPI-WMI differently than Linux.  It's not as
>> easy to check both from a Windows utility due to that.
> 
> Actually, it is quite easy to check both interfaces from a Windows 
> utility. Both ACPI-WMI objects can be accessed by
> Windows applications, the utility just has to interact with an 
> additional WMI object, but they decided to not do it.
> 

Ah I didn't realize that they're actually instanciable from the WMI 
repository in an application, but that makes perfect sense with how easy 
it is to do from PowerShell.

> Also the original smbios-thermal-ctl utility was created by Dell itself 
> (i think?), so they likely would have implemented this
> if it really was necessary.
> 

It was created at a time that the ACPI WMI BIOS attributes interface 
didn't exist.  I've understood that the general direction is to use the 
WMI BIOS attributes interface in the future.

That's why I was suggesting using both, if such a transition happens 
then this driver would be ready for it.

> As Dell likely only tests their machines with Windows (if at all), i 
> propose that we try to match the Windows behavior.

I don't have a strong horse in this game, but I see what you mean in 
terms of general compatibility.