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Message-ID: <CO6PR11MB5635E730D28AF3A24F1E7B21EEED2@CO6PR11MB5635.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 17:44:00 +0000
From: "Wang, Weilin" <weilin.wang@...el.com>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
CC: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
	<acme@...nel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar
	<mingo@...hat.com>, Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, "Hunter, Adrian" <adrian.hunter@...el.com>, Kan
 Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>, "linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org"
	<linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org"
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "Taylor, Perry" <perry.taylor@...el.com>,
	"Alt, Samantha" <samantha.alt@...el.com>, "Biggers, Caleb"
	<caleb.biggers@...el.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH v8 6/7] perf vendor events intel: Add MTL metric json
 files



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:57 AM
> To: Wang, Weilin <weilin.wang@...el.com>
> Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>; Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
> <acme@...nel.org>; Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>; Ingo Molnar
> <mingo@...hat.com>; Alexander Shishkin
> <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>; Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>; Hunter,
> Adrian <adrian.hunter@...el.com>; Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>;
> linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; Taylor, Perry
> <perry.taylor@...el.com>; Alt, Samantha <samantha.alt@...el.com>; Biggers,
> Caleb <caleb.biggers@...el.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v8 6/7] perf vendor events intel: Add MTL metric json
> files
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:44 PM <weilin.wang@...el.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Weilin Wang <weilin.wang@...el.com>
> >
> > Add MTL metric json file at TMA4.7 [1]. Some of the metrics' formulas use
> TPEBS
> > retire_latency in MTL.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240214011820.644458-1-
> irogers@...gle.com/
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Weilin Wang <weilin.wang@...el.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
> 
> This change works either with the approach in this series or with the
> evsel approach so I don't mind my reviewed-by standing. I'd prefer we
> could have an evsel read counter implementation that returns 0 so that
> we can run without retirement latency gathering.
> 
> TMA 4.7 is broken in that the tma_lock_latency metric uses a
> retirement latency event but not within a max function so having the
> read counter return 0 would break the metric:
> 
> +    {
> +        "BriefDescription": "This metric represents fraction of
> cycles the CPU spent handling cache misses due to lock operations",
> +        "MetricExpr": "MEM_INST_RETIRED.LOCK_LOADS *
> MEM_INST_RETIRED.LOCK_LOADS:R / tma_info_thread_clks",
> +        "MetricGroup":
> "Offcore;TopdownL4;tma_L4_group;tma_issueRFO;tma_l1_bound_group",
> +        "MetricName": "tma_lock_latency",
> +        "MetricThreshold": "tma_lock_latency > 0.2 & (tma_l1_bound >
> 0.1 & (tma_memory_bound > 0.2 & tma_backend_bound > 0.2))",
> +        "PublicDescription": "This metric represents fraction of
> cycles the CPU spent handling cache misses due to lock operations. Due
> to the microarchitecture handling of locks; they are classified as
> L1_Bound regardless of what memory source satisfied them. Sample with:
> MEM_INST_RETIRED.LOCK_LOADS_PS. Related metrics: tma_store_latency",
> +        "ScaleUnit": "100%",
> +        "Unit": "cpu_core"
> +    },
> 
> Other metrics then use that metric specifically
> tma_info_bottleneck_memory_data_tlbs and
> tma_info_bottleneck_cache_memory_bandwidth.
> 
> I couldn't see in the TMA 4.8 release the updated MTL metrics:
> https://github.com/intel/perfmon/pull/181/commits/d54c847b2f863c98a9
> 17bdd31a0680f4d50ff75c
> but my belief is that this issue hasn't been addressed.

I did not include TMA4.8 here because our release of TMA 4.8 is not finalized 
by the time I sent this patch set. I will add TMA 4.8 and latest E-Core TMA 
next time. 

Thanks, 
Weilin
> 
> Thanks,
> Ian

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