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Message-ID: <363efc75-7ebf-408d-be2d-e6c579674f44@paulmck-laptop>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 13:03:18 -0700
From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
To: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, rcu@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshan.ljs@...group.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 00/11] rcu/x86: Use per-cpu rcu preempt count

On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 05:05:47PM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> From: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshan.ljs@...group.com>
> 
> 
> Changed from v1:
> 	Merge thunk_64.S and thunk_32.S into thunk.S
> 	Add missing #ifdef in arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
> 
> X86 can access percpu data in a single instruction.
> 
> Use per-cpu rcu preempt count and make it able to be inlined.
> 
> patch 1-8: prepare
> patch 9-11: implement PCPU_RCU_PREEMPT_COUNT
> 
> Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
> Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>

Hello, Lai!

This is really cool stuff, thank you!!!

Two big questions remain: (1) What system-level net performance benefit
is there, taking the increased context-switch overhead into account and
(2) Are the scheduler maintainers on board with these changes?

On #1, I do well recall your ca. 2019 points about the improved code
generated, but I have seen cases where improved code actually ran
more slowly.  My guess is that you have the best chance of seeing
system-level benefits on low-end x86 platforms, perhaps the old Atom
or Celeron systems.  The rcuref module provides a good way of doing
microbenchmarks, which would be a good start.  Other metrics that
might help include overall kernel code size.

On #2, good data for #1 would help greatly.

Thoughts?

							Thanx, Paul

> Lai Jiangshan (11):
>   lib: Use rcu_preempt_depth() to replace current->rcu_read_lock_nesting
>   rcu: Move rcu_preempt_depth_set() to rcupdate.h
>   rcu: Reorder tree_exp.h after tree_plugin.h
>   rcu: Add macros set_rcu_preempt_special() and
>     clear_rcu_preempt_special()
>   rcu: Make rcu_read_unlock_special() global
>   rcu: Rename marco __LINUX_RCU_H to __KERNEL_RCU_H
>   sched/core: Add rcu_preempt_switch()
>   x86/entry: Merge thunk_64.S and thunk_32.S into thunk.S
>   rcu: Implement PCPU_RCU_PREEMPT_COUNT framework
>   x86/rcu: Add rcu_preempt_count
>   x86/rcu: Add THUNK rcu_read_unlock_special_thunk
> 
>  arch/x86/Kconfig                       |   1 +
>  arch/x86/entry/Makefile                |   2 +-
>  arch/x86/entry/{thunk_64.S => thunk.S} |   5 ++
>  arch/x86/entry/thunk_32.S              |  18 ----
>  arch/x86/include/asm/current.h         |   3 +
>  arch/x86/include/asm/rcu_preempt.h     | 109 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c           |   4 +
>  include/linux/rcupdate.h               |  36 ++++++++
>  kernel/rcu/Kconfig                     |   8 ++
>  kernel/rcu/rcu.h                       |  15 +++-
>  kernel/rcu/tree.c                      |   2 +-
>  kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h                  |   2 +-
>  kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h               |  41 ++++++----
>  kernel/sched/core.c                    |   2 +
>  lib/locking-selftest.c                 |   6 +-
>  15 files changed, 212 insertions(+), 42 deletions(-)
>  rename arch/x86/entry/{thunk_64.S => thunk.S} (72%)
>  delete mode 100644 arch/x86/entry/thunk_32.S
>  create mode 100644 arch/x86/include/asm/rcu_preempt.h
> 
> 
> base-commit: f2f80ac809875855ac843f9e5e7480604b5cbff5
> -- 
> 2.19.1.6.gb485710b
> 

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