linux-kernel - Re: [v3 PATCH] hwrng: core - Remove add_early

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Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 12:49:50 +0800
From: Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [v3 PATCH] hwrng: core - Remove add_early_randomness

On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 03:53:23PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> That said, looking at the code in question, there are other oddities
> going on. Even the "we found a favorite new rng" case looks rather
> strange. The thread we use - nice and asynchronous - seems to sleep
> only if the randomness source is emptied.
> 
> What if you have a really good source of hw randomness? That looks
> like a busy loop to me, but hopefully I'm missing something obvious.

Yes that does look strange.  So I dug up the original patch at

	https://lore.kernel.org/all/20140317165012.GC1763@lst.de/

and therein lies the answer.  It's relying on random.c to push back
when the amount of new entropy exceeds what it needs.  IOW we will
sleep via add_hwgenerator_randomness when random.c decides that
enough is enough.  In fact the rate is much less now compared to
when the patch was first applied.

Cheers,
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