lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <69c0e008-ddde-4a38-b856-b765dc2b9745@kernel.org>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 10:10:50 +0200
From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@...nel.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
 Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>,
 Muchun Song <muchun.song@...ux.dev>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] memcg: simple cleanup of stats update functions

On 5/28/24 9:56 AM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2024-05-27 22:16:41 [-0700], Shakeel Butt wrote:
>> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 06:34:24PM GMT, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> > On 5/27/24 5:22 PM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>> > > On 2024-04-20 16:25:05 [-0700], Shakeel Butt wrote:
>> > >> mod_memcg_lruvec_state() is never called from outside of memcontrol.c
>> > >> and with always irq disabled. So, replace it with the irq disabled
>> > >> version and add an assert that irq is disabled in the caller.
>> > > 
>> > > unless PREEMPT_RT is enabled. In that case IRQs are not disabled as part
>> > > of local_lock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, …) leading to:
>> 
>> Sorry about that and thanks for the report.
> 
> no worries.
> 
>> > 
>> > But then the "interrupts are handled by a kernel thread that can sleep" part
>> > of RT also means it's ok to just have the stock_lock taken with no
>> > interrupts disabled as no actual raw interrupt handler will interrupt the
>> > holder and deadlock, right?
> 
> I *don't* know why the interrupts-disabled check is here. The
> memcg_stock.stock_lock is acquired on RT with interrupts enabled and
> never disables interrupts. The lock is never acquired in an hard
> interrupt (not threaded interrupt) context so there is never a deadlock.
> 
> Originally the interrupts were disabled in mod_memcg_lruvec_state()
> because the counter, it operates on, is per-CPU and relies on disabled
> interrupts because the operation is not atomic and the code can be run
> in interrupts context (on !RT). The __mod_memcg_lruvec_state() variant
> of it relied on interrupts being disabled by the caller. This "rely on"
> was part of a spinlock_t lock (or invoked from an interrupt handler, the
> memory is fading slowly away) which does not disable interrupts on
> PREEMPT_RT.
> So for that reason we ended up with __memcg_stats_lock() which disables
> preemption only on PREEMPT_RT to achieve the same level of "atomic"
> update.
> 
>> Thanks Vlastimil for jolting my memory on RT reasoning.
>> 
>> > > suggestions?
>> > 
>> > So in that case the appropriate thing would be to replace the assert with
>> > lockdep_assert_held(&memcg_stock.stock_lock);
>> > ?
>> > 
>> > It seems all the code paths leading here have that one.
>> > 
>> 
>> Yeah this seems right and reasonable. Should I send a fix or you want to
>> send it?
> 
> I don't mind sending a patch. I'm just not sure if the lock is the right
> thing to do. However it should ensure that interrupts are disabled on
> !RT for the sake of the counter update (if observed in IRQ context).

Looks like some places there use VM_WARN_ON_IRQS_ENABLED() that's turned off
for PREEMPT_RT, so maybe that's what should replace the current
lockdep_assert, perhaps together with
lockdep_assert_held(this_cpu_ptr(&memcg_stock.stock_lock));

But also __mod_memcg_lruvec_state() already has that VM_WARN_ON.

> Yeah, let me prepare something.
> 
> Sebastian


Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ