linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v19 037/130] KVM: TDX: Make KVM_CAP_MAX

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Message-ID: <Zle29YsDN5Hff7Lo@google.com>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 16:15:01 -0700
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@...el.com>
Cc: Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>, "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, 
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, 
	"isaku.yamahata@...il.com" <isaku.yamahata@...il.com>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, 
	Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@...gle.com>, Sagi Shahar <sagis@...gle.com>, Bo2 Chen <chen.bo@...el.com>, 
	Hang Yuan <hang.yuan@...el.com>, Tina Zhang <tina.zhang@...el.com>, 
	isaku.yamahata@...ux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 037/130] KVM: TDX: Make KVM_CAP_MAX_VCPUS backend specific

On Tue, May 14, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2024 2:04 am, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, May 09, 2024, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 11:19:44AM +1200, Kai Huang <kai.huang@...el.com> wrote:
> > > > On 10/05/2024 10:52 am, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/05/2024 4:35 am, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > > > > KVM x86 limits KVM_MAX_VCPUS to 4096:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >      config KVM_MAX_NR_VCPUS
> > > > > > > 	int "Maximum number of vCPUs per KVM guest"
> > > > > > > 	depends on KVM
> > > > > > > 	range 1024 4096
> > > > > > > 	default 4096 if MAXSMP
> > > > > > > 	default 1024
> > > > > > > 	help
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > whereas the limitation from TDX is apprarently simply due to TD_PARAMS taking
> > > > > > > a 16-bit unsigned value:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >      #define TDX_MAX_VCPUS  (~(u16)0)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > i.e. it will likely be _years_ before TDX's limitation matters, if it ever does.
> > > > > > > And _if_ it becomes a problem, we don't necessarily need to have a different
> > > > > > > _runtime_ limit for TDX, e.g. TDX support could be conditioned on KVM_MAX_NR_VCPUS
> > > > > > > being <= 64k.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Actually later versions of TDX module (starting from 1.5 AFAICT), the module
> > > > > > has a metadata field to report the maximum vCPUs that the module can support
> > > > > > for all TDX guests.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My quick glance at the 1.5 source shows that the limit is still effectively
> > > > > 0xffff, so again, who cares?  Assert on 0xffff compile time, and on the reported
> > > > > max at runtime and simply refuse to use a TDX module that has dropped the minimum
> > > > > below 0xffff.
> > > > 
> > > > I need to double check why this metadata field was added.  My concern is in
> > > > future module versions they may just low down the value.
> > > 
> > > TD partitioning would reduce it much.
> > 
> > That's still not a reason to plumb in what is effectively dead code.  Either
> > partitioning is opt-in, at which I suspect KVM will need yet more uAPI to express
> > the limitations to userspace, or the TDX-module is potentially breaking existing
> > use cases.
> 
> The 'max_vcpus_per_td' global metadata fields is static for the TDX module.
> If the module supports the TD partitioning, it just reports some smaller
> value regardless whether we opt-in TDX partitioning or not.
> 
> I think the point is this 'max_vcpus_per_td' is TDX architectural thing and
> kernel should not make any assumption of the value of it.

It's not an assumption, it's a requirement.  And KVM already places requirements
on "hardware", e.g. kvm-intel.ko will refuse to load if the CPU doesn't support
a bare mimimum VMX feature set.  Refusing to enable TDX because max_vcpus_per_td
is unexpectedly low isn't fundamentally different than refusing to enable VMX
because IRQ window exiting is unsupported.

In the unlikely event there is a legitimate reason for max_vcpus_per_td being
less than KVM's minimum, then we can update KVM's minimum as needed.  But AFAICT,
that's purely theoretical at this point, i.e. this is all much ado about nothing.