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Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 18:40:12 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@...el.com>
Cc: intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org, Tony Nguyen
 <anthony.l.nguyen@...el.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric
 Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Mina
 Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com>,
 nex.sw.ncis.osdt.itp.upstreaming@...el.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH iwl-next 11/12] idpf: convert header split mode to
 libeth + napi_build_skb()

On Tue, 28 May 2024 15:48:45 +0200 Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> Currently, idpf uses the following model for the header buffers:
> 
> * buffers are allocated via dma_alloc_coherent();
> * when receiving, napi_alloc_skb() is called and then the header is
>   copied to the newly allocated linear part.
> 
> This is far from optimal as DMA coherent zone is slow on many systems
> and memcpy() neutralizes the idea and benefits of the header split. Not
> speaking of that XDP can't be run on DMA coherent buffers, but at the
> same time the idea of allocating an skb to run XDP program is ill.
> Instead, use libeth to create page_pools for the header buffers, allocate
> them dynamically and then build an skb via napi_build_skb() around them
> with no memory copy. With one exception...
> When you enable header split, you except you'll always have a separate

                                    accept

> header buffer, so that you could reserve headroom and tailroom only
> there and then use full buffers for the data. For example, this is how
> TCP zerocopy works -- you have to have the payload aligned to PAGE_SIZE.
> The current hardware running idpf does *not* guarantee that you'll
> always have headers placed separately. For example, on my setup, even
> ICMP packets are written as one piece to the data buffers. You can't
> build a valid skb around a data buffer in this case.
> To not complicate things and not lose TCP zerocopy etc., when such thing
> happens, use the empty header buffer and pull either full frame (if it's
> short) or the Ethernet header there and build an skb around it. GRO
> layer will pull more from the data buffer later. This W/A will hopefully
> be removed one day.

Hopefully soon, cause it will prevent you from mapping data buffers to
user space or using DMABUF memory :(

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