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Message-ID: <87mso0ym8q.fsf@oracle.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 22:47:17 -0700
From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@...cle.com>
To: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@...cle.com>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@...cle.com>, catalin.marinas@....com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] cpuidle-haltpoll: define arch_haltpoll_supported()


Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@...cle.com> writes:

> On 30/04/2024 19:37, Ankur Arora wrote:
>> From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@...cle.com>
>>
>> Right now kvm_para_has_hint(KVM_HINTS_REALTIME) is x86 only. In
>> pursuit of making cpuidle-haltpoll architecture independent, define
>> arch_haltpoll_supported() which handles the architectural check for
>> enabling haltpoll.
>>
>> Move the (kvm_para_available() && kvm_para_has_hint(KVM_HINTS_REALTIME))
>> check to the x86 specific arch_haltpoll_supported().
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@...cle.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Mihai Carabas <mihai.carabas@...cle.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@...cle.com>
>>
>> ---
>> Changelog:
>>
>>   - s/arch_haltpoll_want/arch_haltpoll_supported/
>
>
> I am not sure it's correct to call supported() considering that it's supposed to
> always supported (via WFE or cpu_relax()) and it's not exactly what it is doing.
> The function you were changing is more about whether it's default enabled or
> not. So I think the old name in v4 is more appropriate i.e. arch_haltpoll_want()
>
> Alternatively you could have it called arch_haltpoll_default_enabled() though
> it's longer/verbose.

So, I thought about it some and the driver loading decision tree
should be:

1. bail out based on the value of boot_option_idle_override.
2. if arch_haltpoll_supported(), enable haltpoll
3. if cpuidle-haltpoll.force=1, enable haltpoll,

Note: in the posted versions, cpuidle-haltpoll.force is allowed to
override boot_option_idle_override, which is wrong. With that fixed
the x86 check should be:

bool arch_haltpoll_supported(void)
{
       return kvm_para_available() && kvm_para_has_hint(KVM_HINTS_REALTIME);
}

and arm64:

static inline bool arch_haltpoll_supported(void)
{
       /*
        * Ensure the event stream is available to provide a terminating
        * condition to the WFE in the poll loop.
        */
       return arch_timer_evtstrm_available();
}

Now, both of these fit reasonably well with arch_haltpoll_supported().
My personal preference for that is because it seems to me that the
architecture code should just deal with mechanism and not policy.
However, as you imply arch_haltpoll_supported() is a more loaded name
and given that the KVM side of arm64 haltpoll is not done yet, it's
best to have a more neutral label like arch_haltpoll_want() or
arch_haltpoll_do_enable().

> Though if you want a true supported() arch helper *I think* you need to make a
> bigger change into introducing arch_haltpoll_supported() separate from
> arch_haltpoll_want() where the former would ignore the .force=y modparam and
> never be able to load if a given feature wasn't present e.g. prevent arm64
> haltpoll loading be conditioned to arch_timer_evtstrm_available() being present.
>
> Though I don't think that you want this AIUI

Yeah I don't. I think the cpuidle-haltpoll.force=1, should be allowed to
override arch_haltpoll_supported(), so long as smp_cond_load_relaxed()
is well defined (as it is here).

It shouldn't, however, override the user's choice of boot_option_idle_override.

--
ankur

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