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Message-ID: <Zmm9SdVfg18RECT5@google.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:22:49 -0700
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev>, 
	Tianrui Zhao <zhaotianrui@...ngson.cn>, Bibo Mao <maobibo@...ngson.cn>, 
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@...ha.franken.de>, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>, 
	Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>, Atish Patra <atishp@...shpatra.org>, 
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>, 
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, kvmarm@...ts.linux.dev, 
	loongarch@...ts.linux.dev, linux-mips@...r.kernel.org, 
	linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, kvm-riscv@...ts.infradead.org, 
	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] KVM: delete .change_pte MMU notifier callback

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:53:26PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > I assume the idea would be to let arch code do single-page invalidations of
> > > > stage-2 entries for each gfn?
> > > 
> > > Right, as it's the only code which knows which ptes actually ended up
> > > being aged.
> > > 
> > > > Unless I'm having a brain fart, x86 can't make use of that functionality.  Intel
> > > > doesn't provide any way to do targeted invalidation of stage-2 mappings.  AMD
> > > > provides an instruction to do broadcast invalidations, but it takes a virtual
> > > > address, i.e. a stage-1 address.  I can't tell if it's a host virtual address or
> > > > a guest virtual address, but it's a moot point because KVM doen't have the guest
> > > > virtual address, and if it's a host virtual address, there would need to be valid
> > > > mappings in the host page tables for it to work, which KVM can't guarantee.
> > > 
> > > Ah, so it sounds like it would need to be an arch opt-in then.
> > 
> > Even if x86 (or some other arch code) could use the precise tracking, I think it
> > would make sense to have the behavior be arch specific.  Adding infrastructure
> > to get information from arch code, only to turn around and give it back to arch
> > code would be odd.
> 
> Sorry, yes, that's what I had in mind. Basically, a way for the arch code
> to say "I've handled the TLBI, don't worry about it."
> 
> > Unless arm64 can't do the invalidation immediately after aging the stage-2 PTE,
> > the best/easiest solution would be to let arm64 opt out of the common TLB flush
> > when a SPTE is made young.
> > 
> > With the range-based flushing bundled in, this?
> > 
> > ---
> >  include/linux/kvm_host.h |  2 ++
> >  virt/kvm/kvm_main.c      | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
> >  2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > index afbc99264ffa..8fe5f5e16919 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > @@ -2010,6 +2010,8 @@ extern const struct kvm_stats_header kvm_vcpu_stats_header;
> >  extern const struct _kvm_stats_desc kvm_vcpu_stats_desc[];
> >  
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_MMU_NOTIFIER
> > +int kvm_arch_flush_tlb_if_young(void);
> > +
> >  static inline int mmu_invalidate_retry(struct kvm *kvm, unsigned long mmu_seq)
> >  {
> >  	if (unlikely(kvm->mmu_invalidate_in_progress))
> > diff --git a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> > index 38b498669ef9..5ebef8ef239c 100644
> > --- a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> > +++ b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> > @@ -595,6 +595,11 @@ static void kvm_null_fn(void)
> >  }
> >  #define IS_KVM_NULL_FN(fn) ((fn) == (void *)kvm_null_fn)
> >  
> > +int __weak kvm_arch_flush_tlb_if_young(void)
> > +{
> > +	return true;
> > +}
> 
> I tend to find __weak functions a little ugly, but I think the gist of the
> diff looks good to me. Thanks for putting it together!

Circling back to this, I don't think we should pursue this specific tweak, at
least not without hard data for a concrete use case.

The clear_flush_young() hook is the only callback that overloads the return value,
e.g. for invalidate_range_start(), arch code can simply return false if the flush
has already been performed.

And clear_flush_young() _always_ operates on a single page, i.e. the range will
only ever cover a single page in the primary MMU.  It's obviously possible that
KVM's MMU has mapped a transparent hugepage using multiple smaller pages, but
that should be relatively uncommon, and probably not worth optimizing for.